Seeds at the upcoming World Tour Finals were finalized on Saturday when David Ferrer lost to Andy Murray in the semis of the BNP Paribas Masters. Ferrer will move up inconsequentially from No. 8 to No. 7 but could have climbed all the way to fifth with the Paris title.
Seeds
1) Novak Djokovic
2) Andy Murray
3) Roger Federer
4) Stan Wawrinka
5) Rafael Nadal
6) Tomas Berdych
7) David Ferrer
8) Kei Nishikori
Draw format
1) Novak Djokovic – in pool A
2) Andy Murray – in pool B
3) Roger Federer – cannot be with Wawrinka
4) Stan Wawrinka – cannot be with Federer
5) Rafael Nadal – cannot be with Berdych
6) Tomas Berdych – cannot be with Nadal
7) David Ferrer – cannot be with Nishikori
8) Kei Nishikori – cannot be with Ferrer
Djokovic Federer Nadal and nishikori would be sick group. It would be bad draw for all though.
i think i want A) Djokovic, Wawrinka, Berdych, and Ferrer and B) Murray, Federer, Nadal, and Nishikori
Yeah that would be good draw too. I would take djokovic and Wawrinka to win A group and Murray and fed to win B group.
What do u think the toughest draw for Novak would be?
A tough group for novak would be if he is asked to play with left hand. I dont see novak losing a single match irrespective of who he plays.
Everyone
I reckon groups are going to be djoker; wawrinka; berdych; and nishikori (Gasquet if nishikori is injured)
The other group is going to be federer; murray; nadal; ferrer
My tips are nadal and berdych to make the final of Barclays
I reckon ferrer going to beat federer; nadal going to beat federer and ferrer; murray going to beat federer; mirrsy beats nadal; murray and nadal qualify from this group
Djoker going to beat everyone; berdych going to come second in group
Djoker and nadal meet semis; berdych and murray meet semis
Berdych and nadal meet in final ; no too 4 in the final
how is Federer losing to Ferrer?
This is my draw ‘out of a hat’:
Djokovic…………………………………………..Murray
Federer……………………………………………Wawrinka
Berdych……………………………………………Nadal
Ferrer………………………………………………Nishikori
how did you conduct it?
I wrote down the names of each group of 2 from Federer downwards eg Federer/ Wawa, folded the pieces of paper closed my eyes and the first one picked went into Group A, the second into Group B, then Nadal/Berdych and Ferrer/Nishikori.
I’m sure it won’t work out that way but it will be interesting to see how close I am, if at all.
great stuff
I will have to wait for the draw. Never have been able to manage hypothetical permutations – my brain simply doesn’t work that way as most of you must’ve noticed 🙂
Prefer
Djokovic Nadal Ferrer Wawrinka
Murray Federer Berdych Nishikori
Nadal has a better chance reaching semis if group is paired this way rather than clubbed with Murray and Federer. Also if he makes semis, he wont have to play Djokovic in semis.
I actually don’t mind Nadal playing Djokovic. At their best, I think Nadal has the edge. The only thing is, not sure if the real Rafa will stay in Mallorca, if he turns up he can take on any of them.
no, he does not have the edge on this surface.
They are 2 :2 on this surface.
irrelevant
It’s been so long that Rafa’s been at his best so impossible to say.
Indoors is rarely an advantage for Rafa.
I dont know Novak winning everything under the sun is good for tennis, or not. The commies are reading out all his achievements this year, I wonder will they get tired, or bored, finally if Novak continues winning everything next year and beyond.
Rafa is not going to beat Novak at the WTF, at least he’s not ready yet, so to me, whichever group he lands in doesn’t matter. Novak will most likely win it again and cap an unbelievable season that even Fed couldn’t match.
Agreed.
Other than going for a Nole slam, it’s not good for tennis.
However I’m not sure how many of us would be complaining if it was Rafa. 🙂
I’m not excited about predicting how the WTF draw will be rigged (even though it will be). I do expect Fed and Murray to be in the same draw. Rafa and Wawa in Nole’s half.
The last three don’t really matter much.
Hard to get excited over an indoor exhibition where you can lose twice and come out champion.
the commentators will talk about what there is! of course they will talk about Novak because this year has been all Novak. I know we don’t like it, but the truth is that Djokovic deserves all that praise. What do we want to hear from the commies then? should they talk about rafa’s struggles or how fed can no longer win slams?
Can’t blame the commies.. unless Rafa steps up, it will stay like this. Nobody from the new generation is good enough right now. Murray, well, ….don’t know…he is capable of doing great stuff but he has been held back lately…
If they did they’d lose their jobs lol.
hawkeye, I think you are right. It’s going to be Djokopod/Nadal, Murray/Federer.
I’m ALWAYS right naddy.
Rafa wont sweep up everything under the sun, at least not on indoor HCs and not on grass, so there’s no chance for anyone to complain about his dominance across all surfaces.
Novak is more fortunate than Fed; he peakef at the right time when Rafa’s dominance on clay started to wane; Fed had to deal with a Rafa at his peak on clay so he’s not dominating across all surfaces.
Nope, my question is: will they get bored if Novak continues winning everything next year and beyond.
If Rafa is not firing on all cylinders then it doesn’t matter which group he is in but if he is they all have to look out.
Captain Obvious.
Watchinng Murray play after a long time… his movement is definitely 100%…not explosive enough so far
or may be he came out a bit slow….if that is the case, WAKE UP Murray
is or isnt
good show with all those magnificent drop shots! good play
that one at 30-0 was NOT on! watch it Muzz!
VR, WRONG THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!
oops
he cannot challenge Novak with this first serve….both the quality and the % ! I know he has a stiff back….. oh that was a better serve
Alternative draw forecast:
Djokovic…………………………………………..Murray
Wawrinka………………………………………….Federer
Nadal…………………………………………… ..Berdych
Ferrer…………………………………….… ……Nishikori
why is the draw not until Thursday
You tell us, Ricky. You are closer to these things than we are.
Alternative draw forecast: (3)
Djokovic…………………………………………..Murray
Wawrinka………………………………………….Federer
Nadal…………………………………………… ..Berdych
Nishikori…………………………………….… … Ferrer
Alternative draw forecast: (4)
Djokovic…………………………………………..Murray
Federer……………………………………………Wawrinka
Nadal…………………………………………… ..Berdych
Ferrer…………………………………….… ……Nishikori
Gee wiz nadline10 there’s not many permutations left.
No, I’m taking cover on all fronts. It’ll be interesting to see which one is closest.
Not when you list them all.
Only winner forecast – Novak Djokovic (SRB)
Thank goodness there are no giants at the O2 the tent is not high enough to contain them.
The draw will be live on Sky Sports News on Thursday at 7.45.
awful
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