Wimbledon final preview and prediction: Djokovic vs. Berrettini

Three Grand Slams. Three Grand Slam finals featuring Novak Djokovic against a non-Big 3 opponent.

That has been the story of 2021, and it adds another chapter in Sunday’s Wimbledon championship match. After Daniil Medvedev (Australian Open) and Stefanos Tsitsipas (French Open) came up short against Djokovic on the biggest stages in tennis, Matteo Berrettini gets a shot this time around.

Although Berrettini has never played in a major final and had previously been to the semis only once (2019 U.S. Open), his current run at the All-England Club has come as no surprise whatsoever. The world No. 9 cemented his status as one of Djokovic’s top threats when he rolled to the Queen’s Club title last month. Remaining undefeated on grass this summer (now 11-0), Berrettini’s Wimbledon fortnight includes wins over Guido Pella, Botic Van de Zandschulp, Aljaz Bedene, Ilya Ivashka, Felix Auger-Aliassime, and Hubert Hurkacz. 

Berrettini has struck 101 aces throughout this event; nobody else has hit more than 65 (Denis Shapovalov). The Italian has been broken only five times, including just twice in five matches against opponents other than Auger-Aliassime.

Of course, the underdog now has to go up against the best returner–and best player in general–in Djokovic. The top-seeded Serb has reeled off 18 sets in a row since dropping his opening set of the tournament to Jack Draper. He has disposed of Draper, Kevin Anderson, Denis Kudla, Cristian Garin, Marton Fucsovics, and Shapovalov, although Shapovalov at least managed to be competitive during a 7-6(3), 7-5, 7-5 loss.

As the Canadian’s effort indicates, an opponent with a big serve and firepower from the baseline can give Djokovic some problems. As that scoreline also indicates, however, there is nobody on tour who is more clutch than the world No. 1 in the pressure-packed moments.

Berrettini can make this interesting if he serves extremely well, but Djokovic’s return will always get the edge over Berrettini’s serve. And the biggest discrepancy is Djokovic’s experience on this stage versus Berrettini’s inexperience. Mentally, the 19-time Grand Slam champion will be too tough when it matters.

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101 Comments on Wimbledon final preview and prediction: Djokovic vs. Berrettini

  1. Congrats to Djokovic on winning his 6th title.
    Also well done to Berrettini for making Italian tennis history.
    But it’s a shame that Nadal and Thiem weren’t there, not to mention Simona Halep the previous ladies’ champion.

  2. Medvedev’s performance against Djoko at the AO final was simply atrocious! I mean what was he thinking, playing exactly like Djoko but a much poorer version, how to beat Djoko like that in a slam final?

    Where was that Meddy, who was so brave, was so risk taking, hitting his second serve as if it was his first serve, and turned a losing match into a winning one against Djoko at the Canada Open two years ago? Why in a slam final, Meddy just simply behaved like a nervous little lamb, and was contented to rally from the baseline all day and let Djoko bossed over him the whole match? Where was that Meddy, who pushed Rafa to the limit at the 2019 USO final?

    Berrettini tried but he was simply not good enough, because his ROS, like many young players these days, is a weakness in his (and their) game. It’s his first slam final, so he might be a bit nervous and so his serve was not up to par, but he’s able to hang tough in the first set and took advantage when Djoko threw him a lifeline. Berrettini’s game is more of a big serving and hard hitting style, but he at least could come forward to the net and his game works well on grass because points are shorter and his serve is his strength, just not so against a determined Djoko. His baseline game needs improvement though and certainly his BH; his BH is also a major weakness and he’s not fast enough to move his legs to hit his FH instead.

    I had started watching Shapo in 2017 when he played at the Canada Open and reached the SF after beating Rafa and Delpo. He has no doubt improved, serving better, hitting better his FH and BH, but, his game is always the same, ie is going for broke,net rushing highly aggressive game and when he’s made to defend, he would most likely lose in the rallies.

    Alex Zverev, I always find his game rather uninteresting because his is hard hitting from the baseline kind of game, and despite playing doubles with his brother, his net game is still not good, imo he just doesn’t have deft touches.

    Among all these young players, I still like Tsitsipas, because his game is complete and he’s good on any surface. What he needs to do is to fix his rather ‘strange’ mentality, ie learn how not to relax when he’s ahead in a match, and starts winning matches he should be winning when he has MPs or CPs instead of losing them.

      • Don’t get it twisted I don’t really believe in the GOAT debate, I pretty much love most tennis players Atp/Wta/doubles they are all talented and have their strengths and weaknesses, without them tennis won’t be fun so I appreciate them all.

        Goat debate is just fun for me I really enjoy talking to tennis fans about just makes me smile seeing people be serious about it 😂😄😜😘

  3. Novak has said I believe I am the best that’s why I confidently talk about winning GS
    Well well well not sure what to make of that .very high confidence or just a tad bit arrogance

    • Djokovic started playing at age 4 and was nurtured throughout his career. I doubt many players had that kind of advantage.

      Arrogance usually comes back to bite people; I wouldn’t worry about what he says too much.

  4. Do you know when Berrettini might win a grand slam? When he learns to have compassion for weaker opponents than the top guys. A healthy amount of competitiveness is good, but you have to know where to draw the line.

    If you apply Darwinism, it’s just a matter of time before Darwin comes and bites you on the bum. And it did.

  5. I couldn’t agree more sanju. The double standards at work here are breathtaking. I can’t stand this cringeworthy inauthenticity. As for saying what we want, the minute, and I mean minute, the 2018 wimby sf match with Nole was over mira tried to stop us talking about it because everything she says and does on this site is about sucking up to Elizabeth. That’s what triggered me at the time. Literally, the minute it was over she kept saying that we should stop talking about it. It’s nothing to do with free speech.
    How about compassion, kindness and empathy for people who are really upset and suffering when Rafa loses? Do they deserve to have their faces rubbed in this garbage? If nothing else there is a time and place to say these things and it’s not the minute after Rafa loses or even during the matches.
    Lucky comments on the Rafael Nadal fans site. I don’t but I sometimes read there. If her comments are kosher then let her make them there and see the reaction she gets. Of course she won’t. That tells you everything. Not because this is not a fan website but because of how deeply insensitive and thoughtless they are.
    As for vmk, Mona called him a Nole sorcerer. I don’t know what that is but he sure as hell looks like one.
    I haven’t been commenting or reading on this site but the moment Fed lost I left a comment for Fed fans, especially Benny and Eugene which I intended to be thoughtful and sympathetic. It’s very upsetting to see your favourite lose, or even see a great player brought low and I was pretty gutted for Fed and his fans. I wouldn’t dream of rubbing their noses in crap so I don’t see why we are supposed to put up with it. I am writing especially about the context of the hurt and immediacy of a loss.
    Why is mira only taking issue with you, and not the others who agree with you? She herself wrote multiple times on the day that Nole won RG that he was the goat. Why write it multiple freaking times days after a gutwrenching loss for Rafa? Yeah, I know why. It’s nothing to do with fairness or objectivity. She can’t go around trying to shut down debate when she is afraid it’s going to upset Elizabeth and then lecture us about free speech.

    • Don’t know why my comment for sanju came out here.
      Am off now. I can’t stand the atmosphere on this site recently and haven’t even been reading here. I made the mistake of doing so today and really got triggered again. I have to get back to work.

      • @Sanju, N. Djokovic winning RG and wimby had nothing to do with easy draw he is just too talented and a very good player he won both Slam and Aus Open by defeating the best players in the tournament simple, he has played lots of tennis and has it the hardest in all tournament the pressure on him is a lot but he handles it well.

        @Anonymous sometimes I imagine you are a junkie your comments are funny 😂, Novak had no advantage above other player’s because of he started playing tennis at 4yrs old/nurtured I don’t know when he started playing tennis but it doesn’t matter, he is a hardworking player & a natural talent nothing came easy for him just a determined and confident player.
        If you have played or still play any form of sports you won’t think/write like that.

    • Pure nonsense about Mira. Why on earth would you say such a thing? Go on let it all out. Get all of it off your chest. I’m just happy to have a place to post. I am very sorry if I offend you. How about I stay only on the WTA page? Is that okay, Amy?

      • Ok!ok!…That’s alright RC…I see my comments upsetting Amy,Sanju,Nny & maybe others…Once again i am so sorry for hurting u guys…i will try not to do it again…insyaallah!…

        Yeah…like RC,i will try to stick & commenting only on WTA from now on…once again,thousands apologies!😢🙏🙏🙏

        • MA,

          Who said your comments are upsetting me? I didn’t. It’s bad enough with the trolls coming in here to side out their crap, that is what bothers me.

          Lucky and I have talked it out. I was too harsh on her after Rafa lost bad I said so. Rafa fans are not in a good place right now. Ever since Rafa lost RG these pseudo Novak fans have popped up to rub it in. I don’t like it. Wog Boy has traveled here from tennis-x to cause trouble.

          I am not in the mood for this nonsense.

          But I have not said that I am upset with you. I see no reason why you should have to stay on the WTA page unless you want to.

        • AM: Sending you a virtual hug. Post where you like and don’t be intimidated. Most of us on here are just voicing our opinions about tennis, is all!
          The fact it’s not moderated better, is a shame because interesting comments about players, get swallowed up by
          people throwing petrol on the fire.

          • Margot,

            Yes! I was thinking the same thing yesterday. The lack of moderation is a real problem because it allows trolls to come here just to attack. They look for forums with no moderation so they can cowardly throw out nasty attacks.

            Sometimes we let our emotions get the better of us. But if I am wrong I will say so. If I am right then I will try to make my argument without getting personal. Try being the operative word. 😉 I don’t always succeed.

            I don’t think anyone here should feel they have to stay exclusively on the WTA forum unless they want to be there.

            My issue is with trills who hide behind an anonymous user name to post garbage. Seeing the cheap shots at Rafa after he lost RG bothered me a great deal. After Fed lost people were very respectful of him and his fans. That is the way it should be. But as long as there is zero moderation then the trolls will keep popping up.

        • Mira, you are a free spirit! I could not control you even if I wanted to! I can’t control anybody. I have not idea where she got that nonsense.

          I’m awake early because it’s too hot to sleep at night and anyway the Tour comes on early because it’s a high mountain stage. Thanks for your support, too. I appreciate you too. I did the brackets this week specifically to see how Tsitsipas does in Hamburg. I hope he’s back to his normal arrogant self, hahaha

          • Hey RC!..u woke early!..Too hot to sleep huh?…Hey!…i got a tips how to make yor room a bit cold…here!

            https://youtu.be/0wE9XjLgmZg
            p/s…Sorry!…the model in the vid is not handsome or cute!😁…but since he wore the jacket in the end,i guess the experiment is worked!😁

            About Tsitsi,i hope he will win the title..he needs that after the disapointment in Paris!

          • hahaha…that’s brilliant! I can do that. I already have everything I need except the zip ties!

            Thank you, Mira! That’s right you live in a hot place too. Hopefully, you have air conditioning.

            Tsitsipas says nothing about his personal issue. He is very confident that he will be a world-beater again soon. I read his Twitter account. And nothing there, of course as personal as his grandmother dying. Going to post this link again, so that people don’t think I made it up.
            https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/14/tennis/stefanos-tsitsipas-french-open-final-grandmother-spt-intl/index.html

  6. Yes the wimby draw was very kind to Novak but then is it not all automated with no intervention..the wimby draw for novak was as if wimby wanted him to get his 20 here 🙂 Feds draw was clearly harder – Norrie , querrey ( he lost), Medvedev ,berretini …all way better players n I thought wimby loves Roger 🙂

    Rg sure gave rafa a horrible draw..it cant happen that he was drawn to play sonego ,sinner ,karatsev/ rublev back to back and all these had done well in the earlier tourneys. I refuse to accept this was just automated n had no special intervention 🙂

    But tell me honestly . Aren’t the ATP and GS working together or in close proximity ? If novak is at loggerheads with ATP due to ptpa ,why will the GS try to give him softer draws

    Now I hope the USTA does not give a soft draw to see the calendar slam being achieved 🙂

  7. Agree totally that the big three have complete games and thats why they keep winning.The ‘Next Gen’ are jjst avbout taking big swings at the ball and cant defend.
    Watching Nole now, there are lots of strengths to his game that dont hit you in the face straight away, such as his serving. He’s really improved there .Iv elso never seen such a mentally tough player .

  8. Finally was able to watch the men’s final. Congratulations to Novak and his fans! I’ve always liked him and his game, but like so many others, I’ve never counted him as my favorite player. I really thought that Matteo might pull off the upset, but he under-performed, especially on return (as did Shapo, imo). It’s pretty hard not to get nervous in his shoes, and I think he did.

    My favorite part about this Wimbledon was seeing Ash Barty lift the trophy! Absolutely love her game and her attitude. Quite a contrast with some of her compatriots…

      • @Sanju, N. Djokovic winning RG and wimby had nothing to do with easy draw he is just too talented and a very good player he won both Slam and Aus Open by defeating the best players in the tournament simple, he has played lots of tennis and has it the hardest in all tournament the pressure on him is a lot but he handles it well.

        @Anonymous sometimes I imagine you are a junkie your comments are funny , Novak had no advantage above other player’s because of he started playing tennis at 4yrs old/nurtured I don’t know when he started playing tennis but it doesn’t matter, he is a hardworking player & a natural talent nothing came easy for him just a determined and confident player.
        If you have played or still play any form of sports you won’t think/write like that.

        Had to repost wrong thread.

        • It is unbelievable how people are trying to devalue Novaks achievement by saying he had weak draws, etc etc.Didnt hear that last October when he lost easily to Rafa. The talk then was all about revenge .

          And also strikes me that on here ,you cant even be a fan of two players at same time, ie tennis fan , not obsessive fan fan.

          • I’ve also thought ‘luck of the draw’ was a thing, and I’ve always wondered how people are so confident that the draws are rigged. You can only play the people in front of you, and if you beat them all you win the tournament, fair and square.

          • Exactly, and often draws fall away and what looked like an “easy” draw suddenly looks very tricky!
            Also, these things even out over time.
            Preferential treatment by tournament organisers, is of course, an entirely different matter.
            And, before anyone shouts, it’s perfectly plain at Wimbledon that preferential treatment is given to British players.

          • Well, I agree with that. Suddenly this general tennis site has turned into a ” You’re not a good enough fan”
            site, which also happened years ago and one of the reasons I stopped contributing.
            What a shame.

          • Margot, I am not going anywhere. This is my last resort.
            See you later. Watching the Tour this morning!

          • A big change for the worse happened -trace it back to the RG semi.
            As for draws being rigged,those of us who do brackets know how often they are rejiggled when players pull out- very hard to predict.
            I do agree about the preferential treatment but it’s more to do with making sure popular players are seen playing at peak times esp on tv

          • Indeed the brackets get “rejiggled”. And other mysterious stuff happens. The only reason I didn’t pick a Lusanne bracket is that I didn’t have one. Seriously there wasn’t one. I don’t take it personally.

    • Soderling anf Wawrinka are really the only 2 players of the past 2 decades that have worked out how you beat the top guys in finals. You have to go out and play aggressive, lights-out tennis. If you play careful, hoping not to make errors thinking it will give you you’re best chance, you are dreaming.

  9. What a pathetic bunch of posters and sore losers, you just can’t accept the truth and the truth is…Nole is better player than the other two and the best tennis player ever!
    Crybabies!

  10. This site and its posters (majority) is a proof of what we (Nole fans) already knew:

    The most popular player is Roger

    2nd most popular player is Rafa

    3rd most popular player is anyone that plays vs Nole

  11. Hahaha, truth hurts, I hit a nerve.

    You completely missed the point, it’s not about popularity but about how much you hate Nole that you are ready even to cheer Kim Jong-un if he is to play vs Nole.

    I am not going anywhere, you spent some quality time on TX, I missed you and finally fined you, I don’t want to lose you again my dear old lady, this site is becoming refugee centre for disgruntled Rafa fans and you need someone to cheer you up, I volunteered 😁

    As for popularity, I’ll quote McEnroe, “tennis is not contest of popularity “, besides, we, Nole fans, prefer quality over quantity.

    I am advertising this site on TX urging Nole fans to come here and find some old “friends” from TX, so expect more of the old friends to come here.

    Last but not least, for a difference of you pathetic Nole haters I was ready to cheer Rafa all the way at FO if he made it to the final, even if that meant that he will stay clear 3GS from Nole, since he wouldn’t give Tsitsi 5 sets like Nole, Rafa would have butchered Tsitsi, I don’t have doubt about it. That’s the difference between you, old ladies, and me.

    Cheers until next time, love you all😍🥰
    No1e is the best.

    • Wog Boy,

      You don’t know me. Remember that before you open to your big fat mouth. I left tennis-x years ago because of the crap I had to read there about Rafa.

      Don’t give yourself airs. I don’t have any player. You are just looking to start trouble here by urging the other dysfunctionals on tennis-z to come here. It’s what Novak fans do. Sore winners the lot of you!

      I saw the trolling start after Rafa lost to Novak
      at RG. You are here to create havoc and stick it to Rafa fans because it’s what you do. Do not dare to even think you can lecture me because you don’t have the common sense to do it.

      Al,

      Keep it real. The garbage posting started once Rafa lost. That’s what the haters do. They spew out poison and I read it firsthand on tennis-x. Toxic crap. Don’t try to blame Rafa fans for the crap that has been going on here since Rafa lost. That’s why done Rafa fans are upset and deservedly so. You did not see the same thing done to Fed and his fans. That’s the difference.

      • NNY, to be fair I never blamed anyone in particular for the garbage posting just stated when it started.
        There have always been trolls on here.I guess the number of Rafa fans on here attracts them, not the same problem for Fedfans who are only one or two in number.

          • Lol! Okay you made me laugh so hard!

            Oh and thanks putting it all in some perspective. It really helps.
            😀

          • I was being quite serious , NNY.

            wog (wŏg)
            n. Chiefly British Offensive Slang
            Used as a disparaging term for a person of color, especially a person from northern Africa or western or southern Asia.

            Im glad you starting to appreciate I put a bit of thought into making my posts balanced, its a thankless job sometimes.

    • Al,

      Oh my goodness! I did not realize what that meant! I guess it’s not funny at all.

      I have always realized that you put thought into making your posts balanced.

      It may be thankless, but I thank you!

    • Sanju,

      You keep on posting. Do not let the bastards get you down. The haters are going to come here to try and spew out their filth, so be ready.

      Hang in there!
      👍

    • Hey Sanju,

      Thanks for posting the article from SportsKeeda. I had already read the first part that had to do with Novak. I’ll have to go back to it and finish reading. I’m not agreeing or disagreeing. It’s just too much for me to project and predict what will happen.

      • Excellent article , I wonder if I read all of it? It finishes up by stating Novak wins Slams even playing his B game.

    • I like Thiem and I think Rafa likes Thiem too. He is a good natured decent guy. He’s also very hard working, determined and focused.

      He has made improvement to his game, thanks to his coach Massu. In the past, he used to stay at the baseline and hit his shots as hard as possible, but with Massu now, he is more willing to approach the net. 2019 to 2020 was the best period of his career so far, beating the big three more often than they beat him, won a Masters and then the USO, and reached the final of WTF.

      He had proven his worth when he had beaten Djoko at the FO, Rafa at the AO, and pushed Djoko to the limit in the AO final before losing. There’s also NO guarantee that if Djoko were to meet him in the USO final in 2020, Djoko would beat him.

      Thiem is serious about his tennis career, and he’s a threat to anyone including the big three.

      • lucky,

        I agree about Thiem. He has become the one young guy who has impressed me the most. I think Tsitsipas is right behind him.

        I am concerned about him being injury prone recently. First the knee and now the wrist. I hope that injuries will not derail his career.

    • I love Dom and I love Andy and look what’s happened to them both. 🙁
      Think I’d better stop supporting players- for their own good!

      • I like this Wog boy 😂 please visit more often 😂, people like you will make this site extremely and bring all your friends too 🙂

        • He’s a trouble maker and that’s why he is here. But he is not going to get his fellow haters to stink up this site the way they do on the infamous dysfunctional tennis blog.

          That site is notorious. People who have nothing better to do than trash Rafa and his fans. It never changes.

          • NNY,

            I have no idea who Sweetstan is but the person is talking like he/she has been part of this blog before. It would help if all these anonymous posters would say who they are now and that they come in peace to talk tennis. Or, just own up to being a smirking and snickering (nice) or a bitter and grudging troll (useless and bad).

            Wog Boy at least is not using a different Moniker. That is the nice Wog Boy I used to like. He is from Australia and can be a knowledgeable and fair person. He actually does like Rafa, not so much Federer and of course, a Nole fan. However, he accused me of being a fake Novak fan back in 2016, before FO. I am about 50/50 on him because I don’t hold grudges. Okiegal is a 100% true and lovely Rafa fan. But there are some friends that Wog Boy could bring with him that lack an ounce of civility. Everyone is capable of change.

          • RC,

            Thanks for the heads up. I just wanted you to know that a few years ago I was called out for saying nice things about Novak. I don’t know if you were here. It also started while we were still on tennis talk. Novak was accused of faking a foot injury and I defended him. I got a lot of grief for it from some Rafa fans. Then tennis talk closed down and we went to Ricky’s new site here.

            But the attacks continued by one person in particular. I was accused of being a closet Novak fan. It was relentless and other Rafa fans defended me. If I ever said anything nice about Novak, it started up again, so I know what it feels like to be singled out in that way.

            As for tennis-x, I should clarify that there are some good posters there. After I left in late 2011 I would still check out the site and just read. Battling both Fed and Novak fans got to be too tiresome there.

            I know okiegal. I read her posts. Sweet Stan seems like he is okay. Wog boy is not. If he thinks that he will bring people over from there to get after Rafa fans, he better think again. But I don’t want to lump everybody together there as bad people. Margot came from there. So did Mira Andi. And you. There are some knowledgeable posters.

            I am just going to try and chill out a little for now. Who Boy called me an old lady. He thinks he knows me. But I can be very feisty.

            Thanks for giving me some inside scoop on a few people.
            😀

          • Hey Nny…Your words on 1st paragraph stole my interest!…U got attacks bcoz u say a few nice things about Novak?U too??..Ohhh!!…Your experienced remind me of my own Nny!…I don’t understand why we can’t say nice words about Novak & other players without been attacked!…I really don’t understand!…I did it frequently on TX & got attacks by our own Rafans!Tho that’s not why i left TX…

            About WB…Very true that he is the most mean & brutal Novak fans i’ve ever met…but..in general & (strangely) i got on well with him on TX..he’s quite nice with me & very smart & very knowledgeable posters i’ve ever known too!..When he is in good mood,i like to read about what he said bcoz it’s always pleasure to read his smart view on everythings that happened in this world…

            Nny,i know u can handle him(u put a smile on my face with yor response already!)…of coz my heart will be with u Nny..but,u be careful k?WB can be very mean & brutal…U stay strong k?

          • Hello RC! Wow it’s been a long time since we chatted. I have been off the forums for quite awhile now. We always got along great…… even though we like 2 different GOATS!! Lol I apologize to you regarding my Tennis Richter Scale of ❤️…. couldn’t resist getting a jab in on old man Woggie! LOL!! He and I have sparred a few times on TX. I hope this finds you doing good! I know you’re over the moon regarding your fave and rightfully so. He’s playing lights out tennis atm. It’s nice to see things gradually getting back to normal. I was exposed to Covid by my daughter in law and son, and very thankful I tested negative. 😊😊

          • Okay, I am ready to guess one:

            Sweetstan is Van Persie, I hope so anyway. She liked to put me down but it was cool to do that at the time, years ago.

          • MA,

            It was a Rafa fan who attacked me and said I was a closet Novak fan. It got pretty ugly and went on for some time. I do know what it feels like.

            Wog Boy is trouble. He has been saying on here that he is posting what I say on tennis-x. So I decided to go there and check it out. Sure enough, he put up a post that I wrote here and then encouraged people on the site to come here and go after Rafa fans because they are down after he lost at RG. Charming!

            You have to be really sick to instigate like that. Someone already posted under the user name Tennistalk. That was the site we were on with Ricky and Cheryl before it closed down and we came here. It was a pretty nasty comment. Also this person used my user name and my real name. I used my real name when I was on tennis-x. So it’s already starting.

            I called out Wog Boy about what he did. If he wants a war, then he will get it.

          • Nny…I can’t believe some of novak fans acting like this…i mean,i knew how vicious they r before…but,i noticed after Novak won his 20th,things got more vicious than ever!…Came here specifically to attack Rafa fans??And bragging about Nole is the best?Not to mention very disrespectful to elder womens like u & Miss Okie!…I mean,what kind of grown man picking a fight with an elder women??Oh my God!…it’s all about everythings got to your head bcoz yor fave got 20 slams???

            And i know they make fun of us on tx…I wish karma will bite them in the a$$ one day!…

  12. So Margot is the reason why D. Them got injured 😤😤😤😂.

    I don’t like Andy I don’t hate him either but Thiem is amazing if Novak had faced Thiem instead Tsitsipas at RG and thiem was 2 sets up honestly that might be game over thiem is brutal on clay, I would still want Novak to win but it’s going to be difficult.

    • Well Sweetstan, I am a powerful Welsh witch, but alas my spells seem to be going wrong at the moment, back to the cauldron……

      • My dear old lady and old friend, you are struggling with your memory like your president.
        I was posting at TX since 2008/9 and you left at the end of 2011! We certainly exchanged our respected opinions quite a few times.
        That was year when someone lost 7 finals in a row, when the rise of best player ever started and King of clay rabid fans couldn’t handle payback from Nole and Federer fans for their previous behaviour, so they were leaving it.
        That’s truth and nothing but the truth, something you can’t handle, but that’s ok, it comes with the age, relax, it’s not that bad to be the second or third best player ever, you have to sort that out with Federer fans.
        Cheers my friend, love from Sydney, much better place to live than communist NY😉🥰

        • Wog Boy,

          Your stupidity is showing! Also your politics. You sound like a Trumpy. Tough luck! The Orange Menace lost! Hah! You will just have to get used to it.

          Did you ever hear the saying – don’t assume because it makes you look like an ass? You took my user name literally. I am a Nativenewyorker, born in Brooklyn. But I have not lived there for some time. I moved to L.A. some time should and then moved to Florida 7 years ago.

          New York is a lot of things but not communist! If you think so that says a lot about you. There are some parts of New York that you might want to stay away from. If might be too tough for you! Hah!

          You are also a sexist, misogynistic creep. I think you need to go play with your toys because you sound like a 10 year old.

          Never assume.

          • That’s ok, that’s ok my friend, don’t get so worked up, I shouldn’t have done that to , I should have been more considerate of you age, sorry.
            NY one didn’t go well, I was referring to Cuomo since we had to watch him last year on the news every night during that debacle in handling Covid crisis and general agreement between my friends was that he fits perfectly description of old fashioned Eastern European boss, less suntan, but I’ll retract that one.

            As for Newyorker, I didn’t assume anything and you just confirmed it, if someone is born and raised in New York he will always be New Yorker, doesn’t matter where the life carries him later, that’s basic knowledge, if American moves to Germany, he is still American and not German, no?

            I will leave you now, enough excitement for an old lady, no good….almost forgot, I was free to copy/paste your welcome note to me and post it on TX and invite my friends to come over here, I hope you don’t mind.
            Now, grab a tea and have a rest, you deserved it, cheers.

          • Sorry Wog Boy,

            Nice try, but you clearly thought I still lived in New York. Trashing the governor, calling the city communist. Not a good move. At least you are far away so you won’t get in trouble with my fellow New Yorkers.

            I don’t care if you try to get your fellow tennis-x’ ers to come over here. You seem to think I give a damn.

            I don’t believe we have eve4 met, yet you say that I am an old lady. That’s how you get your kicks these days? You seem infantile, like a case of arrested development. Things a bit too boring down under? I think you need a hobby.

            Nice to know that there are right wing nuts in Sydney. Still smarting over Trumpy’s loss? So is he! Too bad. We now have a real president again. Instead of a criminal, lying, lunatic psycho. Try to recover. You democracy haters really need to wake up and smell the coffee.

          • I stopped posting on tx because I found it an incredibly right wing site. Don’t think Sean is and I liked what he wrote. There’s only so much you can take. I know you get Trumptons on here, but generally it’s no right wing site, and I feel more comfortable on here. Also I think it’s really good that Ricky has a WTA thread and an unrelated to tennis kind of social thread. So usually you can keep the politics away from sport.

          • We had a Trumpy here. This nutcase Stanley was very right wing and went off about abortion and killing babies and how we would all go to hell.

            It is good that Ricky set up a non-tennis forum. That way the politics can stay there. I do not like to mix politics with tennis.

            But we don’t seem to get right wingers. Thank goodness!

    • MA,

      You make a good observation. They have become obnoxious now that their guy won 20 slams. I remember last year when Rafa won his 13th RG title and 20th slam equaling Fed. We were all just so happy. Worrying about him being off for so long, then playing in the fall with bad weather a d hardly any match play. Yet he did it! We didn’t go attacking fans of Novak because Rafa beat him. The Fed fans on tennis-x said that Rafa would never equal Fed’s slam total. Then it happened. Now Novak has done it. But the way they react is very telling.

      One would think the people at tennis-x might be smart enough not to be used by Wog Boy to come here and attack me or Rafa fans. I guess I overestimated them.

  13. Nny,
    Firstly, thank you for welcoming me on this great site, much appreciated.
    Secondly, my dear old lady and friend, of course I know you and you know me, otherwise you wouldn’t be talking about me here in such complementary way, we had “nice” exchanges and conversations on that other site, didn’t we.
    The only excuse for not remembering me is if you have same problems as your President, which comes with age, sadly.

    So, don’t pretend you don’t know me like people do in the morning after one night stand, which you are obviously familiar with, though now it’s only “sweet sweet memories”😉

    I have been posting on that, other, site since around 2008-9, you were there, we all know when the rabid Rafa fans flocked on that site in their aggressive and disrespectful manner, that was when that other Rafa site, whatever the name was, went belly up and closed, just to gradually disappear from TX after this one was established, getting frustrated with start of Nole rise and those 7 lost finals in a row by your man which has never happened before and you couldn’t handle it.
    I am so grateful that I accidentally bumped into this site during AO this year and surprise surprise, I recognised and found my missing friends.

    I hope you don’t mind if I copy/paste your welcoming notes to me and post them on the other site for my friends so they know they are welcome here, do you? Nole fans love challenges, they really do, same as Nole, look what he has done by turning negatives in to positives, which is hardest thing to do, but we can do it.

    Cheers my friend, I will be back in August when Nole will be back, I doubt he’ll go to Tokyo, it wouldn’t make sense, USO is far more important.
    Looking forward to talk to you again, love from Sudney🥰 (much better place than NY, just my humble opinion).

    • Wog Boy,

      I went on tennis-x, your home base. Just as I suspected. I saw you post what I wrote on here. If you want a war, bring it on.

      You obviously have a wretched life and nothing worthwhile to do. But there should be a special place in hell for you. Encouraging your buddies over there to go after Rafa fans because they are feeling down after Rafa lost at RG? That all you got? That and making ageist and sexist comments about women?

      It will take a lot more than your pathetic attempt to cause trouble on this site. Remember where I come from, and do not mane the mistake of underestimating me. You are stepping way up in class.

      See ya loser!

  14. @nativenewyorker
    You mentioned that you remembered me posting on TX. Did you use your present moniker when posting on TX?? I can’t remember nativenewyorker???? But I’m a very old lady now…..😩😩 Old man Woggie told me so! 🤣🤣🤣

      • Okiegal,

        Oh and Wog Boy seems to have an unhealthy obsession with old ladies! He calls us all old ladies! He seems to have some problems! 😉

        • Don’t remember a Mindy at all…. but it’s been a few years since I have posted on TX. We don’t agree on political matters… I am a SEVERE CONSERVATIVE….. So I hope you’re not too disappointed in me. I am what I am, but can still be respectful of anyone who has a difference of opinion on political matters than I do.
          Old man Woggie loves to have altercations…. he thrives on it!

          • Okiegal,

            I stopped posting on that site in late 2011. So it’s been a long time. I used to read the comments even after I left. There were some very knowledgeable posters who were worth reading.

            Your political beliefs are your own. I am liberal but not progressive. I can even have disagreements with the left as well as the right. At least here we have a non-tennis forum for political discussions. That way we can talk tennis and not let the politics get in the way.

          • NNY I feel the same way regarding the political realm. I’m glad you can still be open minded about another person’s view. I am the same way…. to each his own.I appreciate your reply. Had you accepted me on all counts! Thanks! Te

            Don’t let an avid Joker fan get you down.The best response to him is to not respond!….. ignore his bully banter.

          • Nny….I agree with Miss Okie!…I think when someones thrived/enjoy seeing other peoples hurt/pain,then there’s something wrong with them…

            I watched many movies & read many articles that pointed to the caused…whether they’ve been abused/bullied as a kid or having trouble in current life or in the past or feel insecure about themselves,the outcome is the same..they want to show peoples that they’re not weak..they likes to be superior & likes to dominate…Don’t give them that satisfaction Nny…The more u argued with them,the more powerful they will feel…There’s only 2 person that have a right to rattled us Nny!..ourselves…and RAFA!!…Vamos!!😁💪

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