Nick Kyrgios may have made another enemy on Monday. But he may have made more than a few friends, as well.
Following his 4-3 2-4 4-3 4-3 4-3 Fast4 format win over Rafael Nadal in Sydney, Kyrgios wore a shirt depicting United States President-elect Donald Trump in devil horns with the statement “F— Donald Trump” written below.
“I didn’t think the level was going to be that high, but I don’t think Rafa knows any other way than to go out there and give 100 percent,” the controversial Australian commented. “We weren’t taking it easy at all, so I’m going to take great confidence from that.”
But it was his wardrobe while making those comments that was the story.
Nick Kyrgios rocking the anti-Trump fashions after an exhibition in Sydney tonight. pic.twitter.com/7gytWZ8Oeu
— Ben Rothenberg (@BenRothenberg) January 9, 2017
Asked why he was wearing the shirt, Kyrgios said the reason was self-explanatory.
Among other things, how is Kyrgios qualified to comment on politics?
Perhaps he plans to run for USA presidency, if it will not work with tennis or basketball. Who knows? He might have his chances…
If we’re talking about qualifications, Trump is not qualified to sit in the emergency row of an airplane.
He is qualified because he has a mind and can think. Just because he is a tennis player dies not mean he cannot form his own opinions.
Nick is foolish and ignorant about much less sophisticated things than politics! Him wearing t-shirt derogatory of a legitimate president of USA who won the elections fair and square is just another item on the list of Nick’s stupidities. Democrats should learn to live with the fact that they lost the elections and shouls stop winning about it! We do not want to read the endless complaints of those who have hard time accepting and for that matter RESPECTING the will of American people who voted and elected Trump!
And Kyrgios should focus on tennis instead! He has no influence on youngsters in his own country, why would then his view mean anything to American people? This idiotic move makes no news in Europe and that’s the way it should be!
I stay out of discussions on politics here and I totally agree that it should be avoided on any sport forums!
Let us enjoy tennis here…
Vamos Rafa!
Corr “should stop whining about it”..
We are taking about this because Ricky posted a topic thread about it. Since he runs this site it is his decision.
If anyone does not wish to participate, then that is their decision. But do not presume to tell the rest of us that we speak our minds. One may supper Nik or not in this instance. But there is a basic freedom in America regarding the first amendment right to free speech granted in our Constitutuon.
There are serious questions about undue influence being brought to bear in this election. The highest levels of intelligence in this country have concluded that the Russians interfered in our election. In America we get to question, demonstrate and protest,
There are many people who are going to fight against Trymp and his regressive agenda. Our voices will be heard, that is our right. No one gets to stifle dissent. Men fought and died in our military to protect that right.
not true…many of you keep torturing us with your crybaby attitude about losing elections on other threads as well…where did you see us from Europe complain about our elections or US interfering in them…or small countries suddenly do not matter? If you dig deeper you would find different opinions on US presidents and would be surprised to hear how many are embittered by Obama and Bill Clinton (the worst president ever as far as we are concerned!)And preaching of a Hollywood actress?! especially considering Hollywood’s own hypocrisy on the same subject is simply ridiculous…
Lastly, the way you all “2017 election losers” speak about Trump undermines the great and to most of us ideal US legislation system, constitutionality, common law, administrative procedures, ethics…the system does not allow autocratic leadership and Trump like any other past president will be subjected to laws and regulations…
I was provoked to comment, otherwise I would just ignore it…So my opinion remains: all of you who have such urge to fight for democracy by trashing your legitimate president should try to be considerate of us who are gracious for being able to simply enjoy tennis talk on our favorite tennis forum…
“the system does not allow autocratic leadership and Trump like any other past president will be subjected to laws and regulations…”
Under democracy up until Jan. 15th, that was correct.
That’s all about to change. Everything is GOP controlled now (House, Senate) and Orange (or should I say, Bannon/Putin who controls said puppet) is surrounding himself with a team of like-minded individuals. There is no one to stop them.
Trump says (Feb 2014):
“You know what solves it?” he said of America’s sorry state. “When the economy crashes, when the country goes to total hell and everything is a disaster. Then you’ll have a [chuckles], you know, you’ll have riots to go back to where we used to be when we were great.”
Steve Bannon, Orange’s selected Senior White House Advisor, says:
“Lenin,” he answered, “wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.”
#TheoreticallyNoTechnicallyYes.
https://qz.com/751320/donald-trump-and-his-followers-could-destroy-america-even-if-he-loses/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/22/steve-bannon-trump-s-top-guy-told-me-he-was-a-leninist.html
I really do not need lectures Friday anyone here on how to conduct myself as an American citizen! We have a Constitutuon and certain inalienable rights in our country. Dissent being one of them.
You don’t get to speak for people in other countries. Americans are not alone in their well grounded concerns regarding Trump’s lies, misogyny, hatespeak and recklessness. His disrespect for minorities, women and the disabled is cause for real concern.
There are laws in place that will hopefully ensure that Trump cannot try to usurp power or trample the precious freedoms in this country. Constitutional scholars and legal experts are also warning of a potential Constitutional crisis with Trump. If he violates the Constitution, then he could be impeached, I grateful for the protections provided by our government. We do not have censorship in this country, therefore we can express our disagreement with a new President.
Your opinion about Clinton tells me all I need to know. He gave us full employment and got us out of a bad recession, created 20 million new jobs, paid down the deficit and left office with a surplus. I was able to get a good job thanks to him. Anyone who lived in America in the 90’s knows that we all had a much better life thanks to Clinton. All we had to do was watch Bush come in and send our economy over a cliff, the biggest financial crisis since the Great Depression. Obama stepped in and got us out of it.
Ricky posted this topic and invited us to discuss it. If it offends your sensibilities, then you do not have to participate. There are other topic threads related to tennis and you are certainly free to post there.
Please do not insult me by telling me what I can or cannot say about a new president. Things may be different where you live, but in America we can speak our minds. Thank goodness for that!
I don’t know who exactly is going to impeach him nny and besides, the problem goes further than Orange.
Pence, Sessions et. al. are all of the same stripe. They’re just not as crude.
Kyrgios was expressing his opinion and no one is harmed. Live and let live. Golden rule. No not Trump’s Golden rule, the other one.
Hawkeye,
I get what you are saying. But if Trump goes too far, the GOP may not have a choice. I do not for one minute think that the danger is not very real. New-fascism in America
Is not to be taken lightly. But the print news media has been working hard to call out Trump for his conflicts of interest. There is an Inspector Genersl who is investigating that letter from Director Comey. Even the intelligence agencies have done serious evidence about Trump and the Russians. I don’t think Nixon thought he would get caught. But the truth has a funny way of coming out. Trump is too corrupt to get away with all of it. There are commentators on cable news tv who are already talking about the possibility of treason on his part. His buddying up to Putin has raised suspicions in our own intelligence community. Trump will not release his tax forms because it would show the money he is getting from the Russians. He is also carrying huge debts to various banks and financial institutions. Journalists will keep digging and digging.
I know who and what the GOP is. I do not doubt the threat to this country. But we do have free speech and a free press and that is what we will need to try and survive this.
Believe me, I am outraged and heartsick over what has happened to my country. It is a terrible time. I know what Trump and the people behind him represent. But I also have faith in our system of government and the protections that we have. We are going to be tested, but I think that if the dirt on Trump comes to light, it will make Watergate look like a garden party.
@ NNY 7:59 pm,
“There are laws in place that will hopefully ensure that Trump cannot try to usurp power or trample the precious freedoms in this country”…exactly! Thanks for recognizing what I said…
And regarding Clinton, I will just name a few of his disastrous foreign policies, quote:
“The Clinton administration intervened massively across the former Soviet satellite states of Eastern Europe, with direct interventions in the Balkans through NATO,and the notorious “shock doctrine” of neoliberal economic reforms in exchange for IMF loans: cutting wages and corporate taxes, increasing working hours and slashing social programs. Bringing the Baltic states and Eastern Bloc countries into military arrangements associated with NATO, and establishing a major military garrison in the Balkans, Bill Clinton set the stage for the clash on Russia’s border in Ukraine overseen by Obama, which could last for decades and undermine the process of integrating Russia into the industrialized world”…enough said…
hopefully, Trump will be smarter than this…
Trump and smart don’t belong in the same sentence.
Trump and shower however…
Wow, did not expect nats to be a Trump supporter. Anyway, I am curious. nats, from where did you get the quote about Clinton’s foreign policy?
Nny,
Thank you for posting all you have today – it’s really appreciated! …also know I’m 100% with you!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++1
I certainly agree that Kyrgios’s wearing of that t-shirt does NOT render him any less of an arrogant schmuck, and really is pointless when it’s worn by a person of his ilk. However, as it slanders Trump, and Trump MUST be slandered whenever and wherever he can be until he crawls back between his daughter’s, err sorry I mean back to his tower.
Again, those of us who are NOT unfortunate American’s, and I say “unfortunate” as that is exactly how the rest of the entire world views you guys currently, can only lend our support on forum’s and public broadcasts of any type to say “he needs to go” until he’s gone. What a glorious day that will be!
NK might not be qualified on such things as politics, but hes still a human being, with emotions and feelings, and strong beliefs, Meryl Streep might put her point across more inteligently, so her and Kyrigios are as different as chalk and cheese, but one thing they have in common is both obviously care deeply about the world we live in ….
Exactly.
It’s called freedom of speech.
Rational/logical arguments will not have any impact on Stanley.
Yeah NK knows all about freedom of speech!
Mary (AT 2:53 PM),
Yeah, especially on the tennis courts! 😆
Ricky Dimon @Dimonator Jan 10
the only speech of Trump’s that will be better than that is his own farewell speech. That’s gonna be epic. A truly epic day for America.
#InAVeryDifferentWayYes
Ben Rothenberg
Ben Rothenberg – @BenRothenberg
“Not the style I appreciate, the way I express myself. I’m not an arrogant type.” -Nadal on Trump, by @Rafael_Plaza:
I have been busy all day taking care of some businesses so that’s why I have not been able to comment recently, but even when I had some few minutes to spare I was discouraged by some of the dishonest & baseless statements nativenewyorker & Hawkeye63 have made. Let’s be honest with ourselves the truth is you don’t care about the truth, I could take every false statements that you have made and point you to the fact’s backed up with reliable sources in a few hours but it would make no difference to you, i would just be wasting precious time that could be used to do something productive. In my first comment I stated that Donald trump is not a perfect man but that he is a man who truly loves his country and wants to make it great again, when compared to hillary clinton Donald trump is a saint.
There is nothing wrong in trying to verify the accuracy of an election remember hillary clinton & Jill Stein requested for a recount & it turned out that he gained more votes in Wisconsin, the FBI and they intelligence community have said that they Russians did not hack the election but simply released some of the corrupt & evil works of Hillary Clinton, Democratic party & the corrupt & dishonest liberal media through wikileaks . Conservative are not liberals they are peaceful & responsible people, I am reminded by some verses in the Bible and some of them are figurative & shouldn’t be taking literally(1) He who corrects a scoffer gets shame for himself, and he who rebukes a wicked man/woman only harms himself. Do not correct a scoffer, lest he hate you, rebuke a wise man/woman he or she would love you- proverbs 9:7-8. (2) Do not speak in the hearing of a fool, for he/she will despise you- proverbs 23:9. (3) Do not give what is holy to dogs, nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet and turn and tear you in pieces- Matthew 7:6. (4) As snow in summer and rain in harvest, so honor is not fitting for a fool. Like a flitting sparrow, like a flying swallow, so a curse without cause shall not alight. A whip for the horse, a bridle for the donkey and a rod for the fools back. Do not answer a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him- proverbs 26:1-4. And with that I say GOD bless Donald trump, I know that he is not a perfect man no one is but I also know that he has a good plan for this country & that he would do more for they American people in 4yrs than Obama & Hillary would do if they had 50yrs to govern. If you want to find out just how corrupt the Clinton’s are I recommend this two movies (1) Clinton cash. (2) Hillary’s America. Produced by honest & reliable people you can watch it on YouTube the also have books if you like to read.
Stanley my friend, you DO realize that most of the world is NOT Christian…right? So do you really think your climbing Mount Vesuvius (lol, I don’t know it’s a mountain and sounded good!) with your staff and fire and brimstone is connecting with NON Christian readers on here such as myself? How about atheist readers?
No Stanley, your not. You are (again I refer you back to my earlier comments about “grave” and “naivety”) just making yourself sound like a stereotypical Trump zealot, and I don’t wish that for you.
Stanley , you must be getting your info from fake sources. Even Trump has conceded that Russia hacked.
You do not have any facts, just beliefs.. Pathetic..
What has made America great is Science, not religion…..
Diagnosis by Uncle Ted Nugent: ?
Know the signs, spot the symptoms, and save a life.
Do You Know Someone Suffering From Trump Unacceptance & Resistance Disorder (TURD)?
TURD is a pattern of pathologically dissociative and psychotic behavior, first observed in the late hours of November 8th 2016, and increasing in severity with passing time.
Sufferers of TURD often exhibit pronounced cognitive dissonance, sudden bouts of childlike rage, rioting and uncontrollable crying.
People with TURD are characterized by a persistent unwillingness to accept that Donald Trump is going to Make America Great Again.
TURD Is caused by the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States of America. For many, both in America and worldwide, this was a shocking and unexpected outcome; their preferred news sources having failed to inform them that the alternative candidate was a criminal parasite in such ill health she got chucked into the back of a van like a kidnap victim.
Research is ongoing, but TURD appears to correlate closely with the following environmental and behavioral factors:
Membership in the Democratic Party
Identifying as a feminist
Currently enrolled in college, and/or possession of a Liberal Arts college degree
Living in a densely populated metropolitan area
Massive student debt
Spotty or non-existent work history
Patients with TURD are very resistant to treatment, and dangerous in large groups. Any possibility of treatment requires that they be separated from their hive-mind support apparatus; they cannot begin the process of accepting reality in the presence of encouragement towards delusion and irrationality. Separation may require the assistance of law enforcement.
If you have a friend or loved one suffering from TURD, urge them to seek treatment. Together we can beat this scourge and save a lot of people.
Mary got it RIGHT:
Mary JANUARY 12, 2017 AT 2:51 PM
Rational/logical arguments will not have any impact on Stanley.
What a colossal waste of time to even read him/her.
I don’t blame Stanley and others like him. People vote with their hearts, not their heads. Blue collar workers cannot be expected to analyze complex problems.
I see where you are coming from Mary and you have a point but I would have hoped that they could see in their heart that Trump has no heart – that he’s just been so hateful and self serving – being racist and misogynist and bullying every minority. Not to mention the very real problem of climate change.
It is very sad and disturbing ,the right-wing non-inclusive political environment not only in the US, but in Europe as well.
I’ve never been more worried for the world as a whole, not just the US.
@ mary,
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/15-ways-bill-clintons-white-house-failed-america-and-world
Enjoy! ?
Who said Clinton was perfect. Far from it. That article is correct. What does that have to do with Nick’s shirt?
Besides…
#FalseEquivalency
That is a distortion of Clinton’s record. It’s easy to do when you ignore all of the good things he did. Clinton had to deal with Neet Gingrich and the Contract with America. He did not have the luxury of governing as a liberal because of the political realities back then. Clintin did something very important in moving the Democratic Party back to the center in American politics after years when the party could not win the Presidency.
By the way, Bernie Sanders voted for Clinton’s crime bill back then! So what does that mean? Welfare reform was part of Clinton governing slightly right of center. While I do not agree with everything he did, overall his efforts to get us out of a tough recession, creating 20 million new jobs and full employment and paying down the deficit and leaving the country with a surplus, are significant accomplushments that cannot be ignored. Also, what gets forgotten is how Clinton tried to enact health care reform with the help of Hillary. It cost him politically and that was part of the GOP taking over Congress in the 1994 mid term elections.
His record speaks for itself and those who wish to distort it for their own purposes cannot ignore the fact that Americans were better off in the 90’s.
Then Bush got elected and the whole economy went to hell. An illegal war in Iraq wheee there were never WMD’s, and huge tax cuts for the richest 2% and rolling back regulations for Wall Street and voila! A Great Recession!
Talk about how Bush wrecked the economy, instead of trashing what Clinton did!
Obama got us out of it and now Trump will destroy the economy again, all while making sure to enrich himself. Betraying one’s country by allying with a war criminal like Putin really tells you how low this country has sunk.
Bang on nny. You nailed it. Great knowledge and perspective.
Sorry nats, that is not a credible source. We do not even know who wrote it except that it must have ben written by some Trump supporter. Lots of fake stories were going viral on Facebook.
But people believe what they want to so I guess you are swallowing all the anti Clinton stories.
What we do know is that during Clinton’s time, there was huge economic growth and job creation. During Bush’s time there was recession and Iraq war. Whoever wrote that article has even tried to blame Clinton for the 2008 market crash! Just like the pro-life guys claimed Hillary was responsible for abortions in the US which law was passed in 1973. Next soome loony will claim Clinton was responsible for crucifixion of Christ! And nats will quote that guy! Hilarious!!!
Mary,
This is probably the only time I will say this, but I am in complete agreement with you! Thank you for pointing out that this source is not credible. Anyone can say things that distort or flatly misrepresent facts.
Thanks for attempting to correct the record!
Thank you native. I have been admiring your brave fight. Difficult times lie ahead but with people like you standing up for what’s right, I am not afraid of what the future holds.
+1 to both of you: Mary and Nny. You both do good work and give me hope.
rc
Thanks! I think it’s important to keep standing up for my beliefs. These are difficult times and things are going to probably get worse in this country. But I see things that give me some hope.
I know there will be marches and protests after the inauguration and the Senate will be investigating the ties with the Trump campaign and the Russians. The Inspector General will investigate Director Comey’s conduct.
I have no illusions about the challenges presented to us in the next four years. We are going to have to stay strong and make our voices heard. Now more than ever.
Spot on Mary. Most of what is on that article I believe is pretty accurate but it’s just taken out of context and not balanced for all the good Clinton did as nny has explained so well.
It’s the expensive price that Clinton had to pay. Hillary recognidlzed it. He couldn’t jave been elected without it and he regrets some of those choices that had to be made but he did a lot of good and the net benefit of his presidency is far beyond what any GOP president has achieved in my lifetime.
As Mary says, fight the good fight nny!
Also that site is known as a left leaning site on general so I don’t think there’s much love lost there with Orange ?.
Left leaning probably means communist. No wonder the article attacks Clinton i.e. supports Trump who will probably be a Russian lackey.
No as in Democratic – nothing wrong with that.
One look at their main page will show you there is no love for Orange there.
http://www.alternet.org/
Whoever wrote the article is definitely anti Clinton. I do not agree that the facts are accurate. I give just one glaring distortion and misrepresentation-he/she blames Clinton for 2008! That is so ridiculous. It is like a gross misapplication of the chaos theory, where to give an absurd example, you can blame someone for walking on grass when he was 5 for the Tsunami in say Japan 50 years later! The thing is you can blame anyone for anything they did if you do not like them.
Again, to me, the article is unbalanced.
However, I agree that he was part of much of the deregulation of banks and Wall Street that eventually did help facilitate the banking crisis and sub-prime mortgage housing bubble fiasco that brought down the stock market and economy.
Yes in my view he made some very wrong choices but overall he was better than ANY GOP president in my lifetime.
(I want to thank Ricky for being lenient.)
I do not agree with you hawkeye but I do not want to debate a political or economic issue in a tennis forum. So let us agree to disagree.
Ricky
What happened to the comments on this article, the last time i checked the were more than 90 comments made and now just 2 comments are here.
Stanley you need to click on the link for page one, above where you post comments, we are on page 2 now ….
Thanks alison hodge, i found the link.
One more to never forget…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ogdgddvqG4
#Watch13th
Stunning, Hawkie…
It’s hard to fathom how Trump supporter’s remain so willfully blind.
Here’s how sadly…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIYtubRrMc4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NPPE6a7mSI
i never said I am a Trump supporter, but I am strongly against Hillary and nothing you say or write will bring back what her husbant destroyed! He dropped bombs on my country and made the whole mess with interference in the Balkans. This is not the place to go further on it..,
FYI, the above article is 100% accurate! Certainly Clinton must have done many good things for your country, but the article is focused on MISTAKES he had made! His foreign policy was wrong in many ways!
Frankly, I do not expect Trump to do any better when the foreign policy is concerned! But at least he was honest about things Obama and Hillary did or did not do! And do not tell me he was lying because I know and see things from a different perspective than you..,Americans usually do not even know where the Balkan is on the map let alone understand the political situation and bad decisions made by US interference…and majority of them do not even care!
However, American people elected Trump for president and they must have had strong reasons for it! While I actually could see it coming it came as a shock to Democrats who were so certain of the victory that they still have difficulties accepting the reality It is funny for us in Europe to watch Obama embarrass himself with sanctions over Russia for their alleged interference in elections and with other lame excuses for lost elections! Even if Russia did hack your system it only speaks about your inability to secure your data and your urgent need to improve it! Russia is not the reason why you lost the elections you all know it!
Finally, I honestly do not think Trump will destroy your economy! I being economists myself carefully follow his proposed economic policy measures and I agree with most of it! I believe business should be encouraged to increase employment, I also agree illegal immigration must be stoped, I agree that your veterans must be better taken care of, and I agree US should try to improve relations with Russia joining forces to fight terrorism…Trump won the elections and for the sake of the people who made him a president I believe he should be given a chance..
I understand your views on his foreign policy completely.
But have you not seen who Trump has picked for his team nats???
And did you read my previous comment?
https://tenngrand.com/2017/01/09/kyrgios-wears-f-donald-trump-shirt-following-win-nadal/comment-page-1/#comment-245422
They want to destroy the country and Trump is both unstable and being controlled.
No, Hillary is far from perfect I completely agree but Trump and the GOP represents facism pure and simple.
Speaking of facism (and also reason why laws are only as good as the people with the power to enforce them doing so (which I doubt they will)…
“The real irony here is that Chaffetz is supposed to be heading a committee that roots out corruption in government. Rather than lift a finger to investigate Trump’s business interests or his purported links to Russian espionage or his involvement in the scam Trump University or the bribery scandal involving former Florida attorney general and soon-to-be White House employee Pam Bondi, Chaffetz is using his power to intimidate a public official for offering a reasonable comment based on publicly available evidence that Chaffetz himself is free to look at, if he had a moment’s interest in actually rooting out government corruption.”
“Trump isn’t even in office yet, and already he and his supporters in Congress are making moves to silence dissent through intimidation. Any hope that he was simply going to be a terrible president who still leaves our democracy mostly intact, like George W. Bush, is flying out the window.
As the last institution standing that has any real power to resist Trump’s authoritarian agenda, the media must not give in to these scare tactics. Journalists need to stand up for each other and for anyone, including federal officials, who uses their right to express dissent or criticism of the Trump administration. It’s a cliché, but one that matters now: Stand together or we fall separately.”
http://www.salon.com/2017/01/14/sorry-liberals-donald-trump-really-means-what-he-says-and-plans-to-silence-and-intimidate-dissenters/
Thanks for your input, hawks! i very much appreciate it!
We all have our views and they may be very different, especially when coming from quite different cultures. I could debate forever as I did in my high school times when studying in the States! But this is not the place to do it!
I am so looking forward to watching AO hoping for Rafa to come up strong and fit! Tennis is what matters now. Politics can wait… ?
Anyone who ignores Bysh and blamed Clinton and Obama for the ills of the world is biased and indulging in blatant propaganda.
No one here gets to lecture me or any other American when it comes to the disastrous collapse of our economy in 2008! It’s too bad that people have short memories or just choose to have amnesia regarding the collapse of the housing mortgage industry and the havoc it wreaked on people who lost their homes. We were losing hundreds of thousands of jobs every month! The deregulation was completed under Bush and it led directly to the excesses and illegal financing that caused the crash of our economy. Then the American taxpayers were told that they would foot the bill to bail out the criminals who created this mess! It was outrageous and the executives of those Wsll Street firms should have been prosecuted and thrown in jail! I thank God for Obama who had the thankless task of trying to get us out of this mess! Now Trump is poised to implement the same fiscal policies that got us into that mess! Trump is a liar and a cheat Nd a crook of the highest order. He had a fake foundation in which he used other people’s money to pay his own business expenses. He gave an illegal contribution to Pam Bondi’s campaign for Attorney General in Florida and in return, she backed off of investigating Trump University! He was fined for this illegal act. Trump also discriminated against African Americans and would not allow them in his buildings. He was fined by the Federsl government for this more than once. He bankrupted Atlantic City casinos, stiffing contractors and refusing to pay them. Some went bankrupt. He let the shareholders get stuck holding the bag for the losses while he used those losses to get out of paying federal income tax.
Trump has refused to release his tax returns. Therefore, we do not know where he is getting his loans and how much he owes. If you will not release tax forms that presidential candidates have done for over 40 years then common sense says you have something to hide.
Trump will enact a regressive agenda that will not bring jobs to the middle class who need them. He has misled the American people with divide and conquer tactics, hatred and fear. It is no coincidence that hate crimes in this country have increased alarmingly.
This is a man who advocated violence. He has thrown in with a man who is a war criminal for invading the Ukraine and killed innocent civilians in Syria. Putin has also managed to make his enemies disappear via poisoning and other mysterious deaths.
I worked for Hillary’s campaign and took nothing for granted! The knew that Trump would use every dirty trick in the book. Now U. S. Intelligence agencies have concluded with high confidence that Russia hacked into the Democratic Party with the intent to influence the election for Trump.
It was not the fault of the DNC because Putin ordered the hacks! That is interference from a foreign government into our democratic process! Russia has a long history of doing this to influence elections in other countries.
Trump is leading a new-fascist movement in this country. If anyone from another country thinks they know anything more than myself and other American citizens about what is going on, then I will be happy to stand up and refute any lies, fake news, misinformation and distortions. I will not let anyone get away with trashing me and my beliefs! The truth always comes out! Trump will not succeed.
Nny,
I understand your blind support of Hillary but please, try to see further than your nose!
1. Putin killed inocent people? Last time I checked he got involved in Syria to help Assad fight against Islamic State, something Obama could not do because he financed ISIL in the first place! Obama and Hillary wouldn’t care less about millions of refugees fleeing to Europe and the terrorist attacs all over Europe! One of the main reasons for Brexit was exactly the refugee crisis and war on terrorism!
2. You don’t have to tell me about civilians being killed! Ask your Clinton about it! I lived the horror myself! Novak spoke about him practising in the empty swimming pool during NATO attacks on Serbia! Do you happen to know how many innocent people were killed thanks to your “great” president? “Invading” is the perfect word to describe US past foreign policies and let’s not even go there..,I can only hope Trump will be batter than that but must admit hawks managed to shake my expectations in that regard.,.
3. Speaking of interference in elections: US has always interfered in other countries ellections, spying and financing those who were their political puppets. So nothing new there! Alleged hacking did not make Hillary lose: it’s her own inability to win the elections when most of the media were behind her, the establishment, the businesses and wealthy sponsors, the immigrants were cheering her usual story on democrasy and multicultural America! She spent on the campaign 18 mill more than Trump and still managed to lose! Guess what, common people voted against her! That speaks volume!
This was the reason why I shouldn’t have engaged into talks on politics because I knew it would grow into an endless debate! I will therefore stop here! I respect your opinion as much ad I respect any political opposition, but please try to respect mine!
Let’s focus on tennis from now on…
nats,
Yes, this is why we should not talk about politics! I won’t continue to do so, but feel the need to set the record straight. I do not done never will, support anyone blindly. I have had some issues with both Bill and Hillary Clinton., as well as Obama. But l support them in far more issues than I disagree. I decided to participate in this election even though I am not a kid anymore, because I felt it was important enough and the stakes were that high. So I did what I could and took nothing for granted and lost a lot of sleep.
You seem to blame Obama for creating the problem in Syria. You attack NATO as though it is the U.S. alone who is acting. You clearly have issues with my country and those who have governed it. For myself, I have had my fill of conspiracy theories regarding the Clintons. It is like a cottage industry. I know that they have done good things that helped people in this country and even abroad. One can disagree with some of what they have done, but it is not just black or white. Things are talked about in simplistic terms at times mes.
Whatever my government did that you referenced as interference in other. Ounttyes, does not make what Russia did right in any way. Trying to influence or subvert a country’s democratic process by hacking into one political party to disseminate damaging information, is not okay!
A dictator who has made his enemies disappear and turn up poisoned or dead by other means, is not someone to be trusted. Trump’s relationship with this man is deeply disturbing to me. The things that have been uncovered about his business dealings, his refusal to release his tax forms, his refusal to divest himself of his business and put It into a true blind trust, is quite concerning to me.
I worry about Trump’s temperament and his ability to handle the responsibilities of being President. I worry about his rhetoric and lack of respect for people. He should be a uniter, bringing together a divided nation.
I am not the one spouting threats of violence because my candidate did not win. I heard the threats of riots or violent acts from Trump supporters if he did not win. I know that Trump said he would not accept the election results if he did not win. He said the system was rigged.
You know full well that if the election results were reversed and Hillary won the electoral college but lost the popular vote by over 2 million votes, there would be hell to pay with riots and mayhem and Trump refusing to concede.
I am worried about some of the people associated with Trump. People like Steve Bannon who is part of the far right lunatic fringe. I worry when I see who Trump is appointing to his cabinet.
Right now the GOP is in the process of repealing Obamacare. That means that 20 to 30 million people will not have health insurance. People will die. This is serious. The GOP has had years to decide what kind of health insurance to enact as a replacement. They have nothing. The party of “no” has no answers. That concerns me.
I accepted the result of the election. I am not engaging in violence or threats. But that does not mean that I can just close my eyes and act like it’s all okay. Because for me it’s not.
You are entitled to your political beliefs. We will not agree. So we can agree to disagree respectfully.
Now it’s on to tennis…,
If you sincerely want to find out just how corrupt hillary & bill clinton are then you must watch or download this 2 movies on youtube-(1) clinton cash by peter schweizer-https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM&itct=CBYQpDAYACITCLHr3bW0w9ECFRv2fgodlvkAllIMY2xpbnRvbiBjYXNo&gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google (2) Hillary’s America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party by Dinesh D’Souza. You would learn that this woman is dangerous & a criminal.
OMG I watched the first 20 minutes. Nothing but rhetoric (as suspected). The most substantial part was the dramatic music track.
And you want to compare that to Orange and Team Fascism?
Seriously, get a grip.
#FalseEquivalencyIsEverywhere
That book and film have been discredited by none other than the DOJ!
This is the kind of far right wing lunatic fringe conspiracy theories out there!
Fake news! It is a disgrace that we have someone actually referencing this trash!
Shameful!
Diagnosis by Uncle Ted Nugent:
Know the signs, spot the symptoms, and save a life.
Do You Know Someone Suffering From Trump Unacceptance & Resistance Disorder (TURD)?
TURD is a pattern of pathologically dissociative and psychotic behavior, first observed in the late hours of November 8th 2016, and increasing in severity with passing time.
Sufferers of TURD often exhibit pronounced cognitive dissonance, sudden bouts of childlike rage, rioting and uncontrollable crying.
People with TURD are characterized by a persistent unwillingness to accept that Donald Trump is going to Make America Great Again.
TURD Is caused by the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States of America. For many, both in America and worldwide, this was a shocking and unexpected outcome; their preferred news sources having failed to inform them that the alternative candidate was a criminal parasite in such ill health she got chucked into the back of a van like a kidnap victim.
Research is ongoing, but TURD appears to correlate closely with the following environmental and behavioral factors:
Membership in the Democratic Party
Identifying as a feminist
Currently enrolled in college, and/or possession of a Liberal Arts college degree
Living in a densely populated metropolitan area
Massive student debt
Spotty or non-existent work history
Patients with TURD are very resistant to treatment, and dangerous in large groups. Any possibility of treatment requires that they be separated from their hive-mind support apparatus; they cannot begin the process of accepting reality in the presence of encouragement towards delusion and irrationality. Separation may require the assistance of law enforcement.
If you have a friend or loved one suffering from TURD, urge them to seek treatment. Together we can beat this scourge.
I stopped reading after “Ted Nugent”.
In the inimitable words of John McEnroe, you cannot be serious.
Have fun in your new 1930’s Germany Inspired Authoritarian Theme Park. Good-bye elections!
#BestOfLuckWithThat
This person uses insults of the worst kind to make a point. It’s just more of the Trump hate speak, lies, distortions, insults and nothing if substance.
The infamous Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels said that if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes accepted as truth!
This stuff if right out of the Nazi playbook! But we have seen it already and will not be fooled again!
hey nats I do not want to prolong the debate but you made glaringly incorrect arguments.
“American people elected Trump for president ”
FACT: Only Americans were allowed to vote in the election and the majority of them voted for Hillary.
“Guess what, common people voted against her! That speaks volume!”
FACT: The system allows only for voting for a candidate, not against a candidate.
Common people voted for both Hillary and Trump and the majority voted for Hillary.
I do not know whether you live in USA or Serbia but if you live in the USA you must know, Trump won because of the Electoral College. Hillary won the common people’s vote.