There were more than a few surprises en route to the Wimbledon title match, but Sunday’s finale at the All-England Club features a marquee matchup between Novak Djokovic and Roger Federer. Djokovic is bidding for his second Wimbledon winner’s trophy, while Federer is looking to extend his record to 18 Grand Slam triumphs.
Before this fortnight even started, some said the 2014 installment of Wimbledon would be Federer’s last best chance to win an 18th major title. While that assertion may have been up for debate two weeks ago, it’s hard to argue that now. After all, Federer is one win away from more glory at the All-England Club and his opponent in Sunday’s final is not named Rafael Nadal.
Still, though, it is a formidable adversary. Novak Djokovic is a respectable 16-18 lifetime against Federer and the Serb has won four of their last six meetings dating back to the fall of 2012. They have faced each three times this season; Federer prevailed 3-6, 6-3, 6-2 in Dubai, Djokovic won a 3-6, 6-3, 7-6(3) Indian Wells thriller, and Federer beat a hobbled Djokovic 7-5, 6-2 on the clay courts of Monte-Carlo. This is just their second showdown on grass; Federer scored a 6-3, 3-6, 6-4, 6-3 in the 2012 Wimbledon semifinals.
So far at this particular event, Federer has been the superior player. The 32-year-old Swiss has taken out Paolo Lorenzi, Gilles Muller, Santiago Giraldo, Tommy Robredo, Stanislas Wawrinka, and Milos Raonic while dropping only one set to Wawrinka in the process. Federer is coming off an especially impressive 6-4, 6-4, 6-4 beatdown of Raonic in Friday’s semifinals. The former world No. 1 is now 40-7 for his 2014 campaign.
Djokovic has not quite had things on cruise-control to Federer’s extent. The top seed defeated Andrey Golubev, Radek Stepanek (in a fourth-set tiebreaker), Gilles Simon, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, Marin Cilic (in five sets) and Grigor Dimitrov (in a fourth-set tiebreaker) to book his place in the championship match. Djokovic trailed Dimitrov 6-3 in the fourth-set ‘breaker, but he ultimately saved four set points before getting the job done and avoiding a decider. Djokovic has a borderline dominant 36-4 record to his credit this year.
Over the years, however, it is obviously Federer who has enjoyed far superior grass-court results. The 17-time Grand Slam champion is 73-8 for his career at Wimbledon and he has captured the title seven times. Djokovic is a pale-by-comparison 44-8. He won it all in 2011 but he had been to only two previous finals prior to this occasion.
“His level has been very high, I have to say,” Djokovic said of Federer. “I’ve been watching him in a few matches. I mean, with his immense experience of winning this title so many times and, of course, from being so dominant in men’s tennis for over a decade, that helps in the approach of the Grand Slam final.”
“I think for me it’s really important to stay aggressive against him, and especially here at Wimbledon it’s simpler how we need to play against each other,” Federer noted. “It’s not like on a slow court where you can maybe maneuver the other guy around so much. I think on grass it’s a bit more straightforward and we’re both aware of that.”
Such straightforwardness would favor Federer, who generally wants to keep points short against Djokovic and win with first-strike tennis. That is an endeavor more easily accomplished on grass than on any other surface. Federer has a Pete Sampras-like ability to serve his biggest and best at the most important such as on break points, and there is no reason to think anything will be different this time around. The No. 4 seed can call on that get-out-of-jail-free card almost at will. His experience in this setting and relative dominance on grass should see Federer through to yet another Wimbledon title.
Pick: Federer in 4
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I think everybody is picking Fed to win as far as writers/editors go but arent the bookies favoring Nole? surely the bookies know something..lol..Or have they too jumped ship like they did in RG over to Rafs side in the final
bookies = the public
But they put their money on the line right rather than just giving forecasts.
Writers/editors not = public
Please read more carefully.
#HopeThisHelps
Fed in 4 or Novak in 5..I am playing it safe. I doubt will beat Novak if it goes to 5
Fed has to get it done in 4 sets!
Would love it to go to 5. It will be fun to see both terribly nervy in the 5th 🙂
Nole is a better player of fifth sets and he is physically stronger so yes, Federer must get it done in 3 or 4 sets. But it won’t be easy to wear federer down on grass even if it goes to 5
My call is federer in 4 sets
Will it not be fun if it goes to 5? We Rafa fans will be the only ones watching it without nerves 🙂
vamosrafa, I agree with you that Novak is a better player of 5-setter at this stage of their career, and it’s obvious that’s the reason Sanju wants this match to go to 5 sets 🙂
As I dislike Novak with a passion, I want Federer to win it in 3 sets, 4 sets at most, even if it meant Federer would get his #18.
Any chance Fed hangs his racquet if he wins this like Pete did after winning Us 2002 after a gap of 2 years?
I feel Steffi and Roger have some parallels. She too quit in 99 after winning RG and reaching final of Wimby after a gap of 2 years of no Vlam winV (97,98)
I meant slam wins above :-)..Typo
no way fed’s quitting Sanju, no way
He will some day right. He has to time it right. He wont play on forever
lol…of course he will someday..but not now I think
I feel he will quit soon within a year
God its Wimby final and the thread is so silent :-). No Rafa, no messages 🙂
@Sanju
I can see where you are coming at. A 5 setter would be the best the neutrals will hope for. But it will be nerve wrecking for the fans of both the players.
I don’t think I will be able to sit calmly till the match ends!
Just think of Rafa fans during AO 2012, FO 2013 semi, Wimby 08,07, AO 2009 🙂
I am all rooting for long 5 setter 🙂 with the best player on the day winning
Common Fed!
Has Federer sewn 18 on his jacket already in Gold ? 🙂
BTW its 8/18/80 for Fed ..8 all over and he said 8 is his fav number
8 Wimby
18 slams
80 singles titles
Nerves get the better of Nole again. 2 set points and cold not serve it out on his serve
Novak played better in set 1 and lost it because of horrible serving when he had set points
Do i want Roger to get slam #18 or do I want Nole to get the #1 ranking? This is the opposite of #sophieschoice
Nole getting No 1 ranking is ok. Anywys Rafa has to lose it within one of his next 3 tourneys, he cant defend Toronto, Cincy, UsO all together, Rafa can always get the No 1 back later twards later part of season
Yes!
No 1 ranking will most likely go to Nole sometime this summer. Rafa can’t gain any pts before fall.
Ajde Nole.
True about the no. 1 ranking. Guess I also want Broom Closet BB gone.
Game on ;-)..1 set all
Tony @tjc05 ·13 mins
Wait, so Jelena is at the house, but if it looks like he is going to win she is going to go the stadium? That is the worst idea ever…..
My my this final is really brillint quality..excellent shot making
surprisingly Djoko up 2 sets to 1
I thought Novak was mentally strong in that third set tb. Also, there were a few bad shots from Fed. That’s all it takes in a close match. I think this has been a high quality match, good stuff from both guys. I felt that Fed needed to do it in four. Now he will have to come back from two sets to one down.
Djoker is helping up fully..lol
Massive choke by Djoker..Cold not verve at 5 3 up,lost championship point..
Wonder if he will recover from this
Novak Djokovic is a serial choker…..chokovic!!!!!
If Novak loses this final again…..not sure this will bode well for the rest of his season! Even if he regains no.1, having regained it without winning a GSlam will just be unfortunate!
That was not good from Novak. He’s had this trouble closing out matches on a number of occasions. So now he has to try and win it in the fifth set.
At least one of them lost! 🙂
Tennis saved! A WORTHY world #1 again.
Whata did I tell you all? 🙂
Novaak should have wrapped it in 3..had set point in 1st too..goofed up..4th set again he should have closed it..choked again ..
Finally did it
Congrats Novak
Great job Fed in fighting hard..you really kept coming back..was a high quality final..thoroughly enjoyed it
RITB..if the draw was fixed as yo guys alledge..karma right here hit back..told you all..however I am not commenting on any draw fixed..no proof..so no comments
Thank you @Sanju, your karma worked! Now please can you get it to avenge the blatant rigging against Rafa so he wins US Open 2014??
@Sanju,
Yes! The so-called rigged draw did not get Fed the win, did it? That’s why I don’t buy it. It has to happen on the court, as Rafa has said so well in the past.
@Sanju, relax bro. I am not trying to convince you to my point of view that draws are rigged. I believe they are, you don’t. Agree to disagree? I’m good with that! 🙂
RITB – I am not saying they may not be. They well maybe. All I am saying is we do not have finite proof to conclusively say so.
Careful @Sanju! This might be construed as one step towards the “dark side”! 😉
Congrats to Nole. I was not emotionally invested in this final, but still enjoyed it. Great tennis from both and nice to see a final go 5 sets.
I thoroghly enjoyed it..no nerves..enjoyed the tennis and the fight..Missed Rafa on court..would love to c him holding the trophy again at Wimby
Same here. I was relaxed and I would have been happy with either one winning. Rafa in the final? Totally different story!!
Cmon Rafa buck up..Its good that you No 2 now..you anywaay play better when yo are No 2..go for it..gap still 3 to chase.
Juan José Vallejo @juanjosetennis ·49 secs
When Petra Kvitova wins Wimbledon…Novak Djokovic wins Wimbledon. Sports are funny.
I told too yest 🙂
Jelena Ristic @JelenaRisticNDF ·10 mins
Journey is more important than the destination and this was hell of a journey my love!!!! @DjokerNole #Wimbledon2014 #Champion
British people don’t like Fed – they didn’t help him enough to win the title.
Fed looked okay post match but this will sting for sure. He wont get such an opportunity for a Gs again.
He has now lost on his fav surface to both Rafa and Novak..It will surely hurt a bit esp this loss
Novak should be mighty relieved he won this. If he hd lost this, he wold never have recovered as he would have lost this from a winning position.
I didn’t watch the match
https://twitter.com/Rafaholics/status/485791835617361920
That tweet is crap.I read it too.The final was fully entertaining and high quality..That person is too consumed by Rafa to make such a statement.
@Sanju,
I agree! I almost didn’t bother to watch, but I was glad that I did. Both guys played well and showed some heart and also great tennis. I didn’t care who won, so it was much easier to watch.
Of course, I missed Rafa being there.
No one comes close to Rafa for exciting tennis. Rafa was robbed with 6 big servers in his section.
Well.. what else do you expect. “Rafaholics™ (@Rafaholics)” kind of gives it away!!
The match was really good from the get go.
abhirf..Commies..Your man played his heart out and fought valiantly
Novak revealed to Dke and Duchess that Jelena is 6 months preg..TV captured it 🙂
Congrats Nole!!! You deserved it.
What a Final, Epic, best of all time?
FED- Proud of you, thanks for the great entertainment!
Enjoy your life.
Not best of all time..that honour still goes to 2008 Wimby final..nothing will come close to that..This ones surely in list of epics of Gs finals for sure
The Federazzi rules don’t apply Fed & his team
https://twitter.com/genny_ss/statuses/485814074832592896
Sad to see this, you can do better.
This is called nadir of personal ……………….
Poor sabs. 🙁
Fist pumps in Fed’s box
https://twitter.com/augustazeight/status/486496417301954563/photo/1
https://twitter.com/VIBHUISM/status/485842067399008258/photo/1
cute pic
I am laughing 😆
Great match from both guys. Roger played better than I thought he would and better than I’ve seen him play in two years since he won Wimbly in 2012. Many fantastic points particularly in the first set. Fed’s serving was ridiculous in the 3rd set with so many aces and service winners.
Nole could have won in three but got tight in 1st and 4th sets when it mattered. Crowd was obviously pro-Fed but were respectful nontheless (unlike RG crowd).
Nole deserved it more than Roger. Roger didn’t really play anyone who could test him the way Nole had. Draw was definitely fixed but Nole battled through.
Very deserving.
Hope Rafa has a great second half. I’m glad he’s still within three slams of the record!
Nole definitely deserved it more. He really should’ve done it in three or four sets anyway. And his way to the final was definitely way more challenging than Roger’s. Can’t help feeling,that Rafa would’ve done a good job here if he had cleared that Aussie wildcard hurdle. No disrespect to Milos, but I do think, Rafa would’ve gotten the better of him in the quarters.
Agreed. But Rafa’s quarter, unlike others, was stockpiled with Milos types so chances were reasonable that one of them would have a chance.
#ByDesign
Yeah, couldn’t help feeling that virtually everybody, who could possibly trouble Rafa, was packed into his quarter. Would never have guessed, though, that the young wild card would do him in. Oh well, better than Rosol again, no?
hawkeye63 (at 6:23 pm),
RG crowd hasn’t been disrespectful towards Rafa. I don’t know about other players.
Yes, in my opinion, many times as so many here have agreed.
#MoveOn
hawkeye63 (at 6:50 pm),
—#MoveOn—
YOU are stuck at RG! (Your comment at at 6:23 pm.)
No. Please read more carefully.
All about context augusta.
#HopeThisHelps
#MoveOn
hawkeye63@July 6, 2014 at 6:23 pm
—Crowd was obviously pro-Fed but were respectful nontheless—
They used to be disrespectful.
The Telegraph, 10 Jul 2013 ¤¤ Novak Djokovic’s girlfriend says Andy Murray supporters made Wimbledon difficult viewing.
Jelena Ristic, the girlfriend of Novak Djokovic, says she felt uncomfortable watching the Wimbledon final as the crowd were all cheering against the Serbian player. ¤¤
To be expected with a home crowd.
However they weren’t overly disrespectful like the French crowd have been. So classless.
Wimbledon 2013 was more than just a case of home crowd support. The whole damn nation was willing Andy across the finish line – not just the 15,000 people on Centre Court. I remember thinking it was pretty dumb of Djokovic’s girlfriend to complain that
nobody was cheering for ‘her man’. She seemed unaware of the historical significance of this particular final. Given that Andy was on the brink of ending the 77 year wait for a British Wimbledon champion If you watch the last game of the match there is not a vestige of anti Djokovic behaviour from the crowd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lww-hJ4LdTo
Hi guys! I thoroughly enjoyed this. Congrats to both for a memorable final. Would never have thought, that one day I might root so hard for the Djoker. But being German (and being more invested in soccer these days 😉 ), I couldn’t help feeling elated to see Becker win against Edberg, just for old times sake, lol! This coaching job has done Becker a whole lot of good. If it really helped Nole is debatable, though. He almost choked the match away for no good reason at all.
Novak being No 1 again is alright with me. He would’ve gotten there sooner or later anyway in the coming 2 month. And I care more for Rafa’s overall slam count these days. For a change Novak helped Rafa out here big time (after taking away far too many slam trophies from him in 2011/12). The Rogerlove and GOAT talk wouldn’t have stopped for month on end, and Rafa’s difficult mission to reach Roger’s slam count would’ve become even more difficult. Also, as a former Sampras fan I feel glad somehow, that Roger has at least to share the Wimby trophy count with Pistol Pete.
This was probably Roger’s very last chance to win a slam. He really will not get any more from now on. The young guns are seriously catching up even at Wimby.But kudos to Roger for this great effort. I don’t know if the draw was rigged or not. Haven’t given it much thought. But Roger won his matches fair and square and gave Nole a run for his money. And Rafa lost his match fair and square against Young Nick. No two ways about it. I doubt somehow,that Rafa will ever win another Wimby trophy, as much as I wish he would. Winning this insane number of RG trophies takes too much out of him these days. But another US Open or even Aussie Open besides another RG cup? Hell, why not? Novak’s win keeps 17 slams still within reach for Rafa. That, and being No 2 again should give him plenty of motivation for the coming month.
Vamos!
littlefoot (at 6:27 pm),
Rafa can win Wimby, if he’s (left) knee will be OK
Correction: he’s ➡ his
@Augusta, Rafa certainly can win another Wimby, IF everything falls into place: all body parts healthy, benign draw without young and ambitious 6 foot plus hard hitters in the first week (all of Rafa’s recent grass court losses came against nobodies who instantly became somebodies after beating Rafa – and lost in the very next round), good weather, open roof… But each year it becomes a little less likely that all those things come together, and each year he’s a little older. Especially the part about his body being completely healthy become more difficult every year after a most likely grueling clay season.
Well said littlefoot with the exception that, given a balanced draw, I think Rafa can win Wimbly still.
Rafa does some of his best work when he’s No. 2!
littlefoot ( at 6:52 pm),
–Rafa’s recent grass court losses came against nobodies—
Do you read only his match results??? Don’t you read anything else about him???
Well, Augusta, why such a harsh tone? I’m speaking about the the time from 2012 onwards, not before of course. Rosol, Darcis, Kyrgios, Brown were all ranked quite lowly, and were not exactly household names, when Rafa lost to them. Rafa made their names, so to speak. Only Kohlschreiber at Halle 2012 had some clout at the time.
Rafa’s last loss on grass against a top player dates back to his loss in the 2011 final against Novak. After that all losses came against motivated and hard hitting nobodies (maybe Kyrgios will become somebody some day). It’s harsh, but it’s a fact. Even if the condition of Rafa’s knees and exhaustion after another RG title played a big part in it.
In the past maybe but Rafa was in good shape this year. The draw conspired against him just like the RG crowd lol.
#CantResist
Yes, agree, hawkeye, read my comment below. Rafa was in good shape. That’s why this loss hurts. Much more was possible. When commenting about hard hitting nobodies, I had more in mind, that apparently they are the most dangerous species for Rafa on grass these days, exactly because he doesn’t know them. Rafa rarely loses twice to the same player. Novak is the notable exeption now and then.
Well I think they are dangerous for everybody for sure IMO no?
Let’s say a generic hard hitter has a 20% chance. Therefore if there is only one in your quarter then odds are you are ok.
However, if you have to face three of these guys then all of a sudden the odds become roughly 50% that one of these guys is gonna take you out, no?
In the last two years it was the knees for sure but this year it was the draw
Roger only had old guys and clay court specialists to play.
While Nole’s draw was difficult it was manageable as he had perhaps just Cilic who is a hard hitter and he almost lost!
The difference between Rafa and the other top four isn’t that he handles the hard hitters worse but that he has to face so many of them.
I don’t remember ever seeing Roger, Nole or Muzz have to face three or more hard hitters like this but it has happened “coincidently” to Rafa on several occasions. I’m serious is true!
#ByDesign
^^^Roger only had old guys and clay court specialists to play in his quarter.
plus Stanisfluke (but really).
Prior to the final, Fed had spent just 10 hrs compared to 15 hrs for Nole.
I don’t think Roger would have survived Rafa’s quarter and Nole would have struggled as well.
If Roger’s quarter wasn’t soft, then I don’t think he could have played as well as he did today at almost 33 years of age.
Regardless, it was a great match to see.
#ByDesign
@hawkeye, do you think, Big Nick was even meant to be on the designers’ big hitters special menu or did he simply crash the party? He should’ve been out after the first round or two. That still flummoxes me a bit. Rafa had survived three potential pitfalls quite nicely only to fall to the guy who should’ve been legally home by then.
You’re right about the lottery part of playing the big hitters on grass. If the chances are 50/50 and you play several in a row, chances are, one of them willl take you out. For the top players (including Rafa)chances are much better than 50/50 of course, since many of the big hitters are kinda immobile and can’t do other things quite well. Still, one of them might strike the jack pot for one day. Do you remember the Australian guy Wayne Arthur ? Very tall, non descript face, mousy hair, huge serve and not much else. He routinely used to wreck havoc at Wimby (but nowhere else) in the 90ies.
Once he qualified, yes, he was “randomly” put in a qualifiers spot in Rafa’s quarter.
Gasquet should have taken him out but the more hard hitters in Rafa’s draw, the better for anyone hoping for a Rog Muzza final (the latter of who also had a relatively cushy draw “coincidentally”).
Yes, I believe the draws are heavily influenced and not purely random based on experience. ESPN had an article that virtually proved this to be the case.
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/6850893/espn-analysis-finds-top-seeds-tennis-us-open-had-easier-draw-statistically-likely
@littlefoot,
I feel much the same as you regarding Rafa winning another Wimbledon. I think it’s just too tough at this point after winning at RG. I remember how he fought valiantly to come back from two sets to one down at the 2010 Wimbledon against Haase and Petz. At that point no one seemed to think Rafa had a chance to win.
I was really upset when Rafa lost the 2011 Wimbledon to Novak. I wanted that third title and also a third channel slam. But given that he has been knocked out early the last three years, I just don’t see it happening. I thought that Rafa was ready this time on the grass. His inability to read the serve of Krygios is what cost him the match. He said it himself. Rafa always keeps it real.
I am still not okay with Rafa losing in the fourth round. It’s been tough to handle.
Native New Yorker, good that you watched the final. It certainly was worthwhile. Besides being Rafafans, we are tennis fans after all 😉
Time will tell what Rafa still can do at Wimby. But many things (maybe too many things) have to come together for him for having a good run. Next year there will be one more week between RG and Wimby. That might certainly help.
hawkeye63@July 6, 2014 at 9:05 pm
—against him [Rafa] just like the RG crowd—
You are hopelessly stuck in the myths created by the Federazzi.
Creating myths that the crowd doesn’t love Rafa is one of the Federazzi’s weapons against Rafa.
😆
No. My opinion from what I’ve witnessed with my own eyes and ears is no myth.
Many people on this Rafan heavy site share this opinion.
The RG crowd have been very disrespectful and classless towards Rafa. This is not a knock against Rafa (which you seem to think it is). It is a knock against the classless RG crowd.
#HowManyTimes!!!!
#MoveOn
what a big champion is novak. He is an all-time great.
Federer, well, played quite well for patches. He got dominated for most of the match but he put up such an exemplary fight in the fourth set.
How poor is fed’s 5th set record !
Well… I’m gutted to say the least..
But, I’m now even more proud of Fed after this match. He had no business winning that 1st and 4th set. Nole was really at his bloody best today, serving with such poise, never seen him play better on grass than this.
Was an excellent final with great shotmaking. I still think Fed’s FH let him down big time today. He also didn’t used the slice, drop shots or the body serve. It was like the match was being played on a HC. But maybe that was all because Nole was relentless with his groundstrokes.
That game in the 3rd set will be really memorable for me… 4 aces in a row against the best returner of serve..
Many great smashes by Fed and some really slick passing shots by Nole.
Congrats Nole! (He definitely needed this more and the emotions post win showed it)
Congrats Fed! You played like a champ out there today!
Let’s bring on the USO!
#6
My only problem ATM is : Where the hell were you Nole for the past 1.5 yrs. Why did you chose to show up today, when you didn’t bothered to in the past 5-6 slams.
THE FACT IS THAT RAFA WAS AND IS BETTER THAN FED! NOLE WAS UNDER RAFA’S SHADOW FOR THE PAST 1.5 YEARS 😀
abhirf ( at 7:37 pm),
Djoko was beaten better players:
RG 2013 – Djoko was beaten by Rafa
Wimb 2013 – Djoko was beaten by Murray
USO 2013 – Djoko was beaten by Rafa
AO 2014 – Djoko was beaten by Wawrinka (who defeated Fed in Monte Carlo)
RG 2014 – Djoko was beaten by Rafa
All losses except his Wimby’13 and USO ’13 losses were the ones that intrigued me the most. He just never really showed up in those matches and handed over those matches in a platter.
Never really showed up? lol… he showed up big time in the RG 2013 SF and played pretty solid against wawrinka in the AO qtr until before the last game.
And when he won the first set against Rafa at RG, it seemed all good for him but then Rafa raised his level tremendously. I still believe that djokovic has doubts when it comes to Rafa.
probably got my statement wrong..
I don’t think Nole showed up at all in the Wimby’13 and USO’ 13 finals. He went down in those matches without putting up much resistance handing over the title on a platter.
Other losses he at least showed the fight. USO’12, FO’13, AO’14.
This years RG final was wierd for me. For me both the players looked to be playing really bad for the major part of the match. It was probably the worst match (quality wise) I have seen them play against each other.
Well, Novak did show up at the slams, plenty of times, no? More regularly than any other player. He simply ran into a better or more inspired player in those finals (and a semi that was a final at last year’s RG), with the exception of last year’s Wimby final. Against Andy he never really woke up for some reason. He may have been bamboozled by the vicious No 77 and the ghost of Fred Perry to boot, lol!
But you can be more than proud of your guy. He put up a terrific fight today.
If Novak had lost this one, too, it might’ve crushed him for a long time, though.
Lets not forget the long and physical battle that Delpo dealt Nole in the semis plus the final last year was a very hot day. I think this had an influence on Nole’s performance also.
We rafans felt the same in 2011 when he decided to wake up suddenly:) at least he won one slam at feds expense after so many at rafas. The one thing that is worrisome is he does not go on a 2011 like tear again
abhirf (at 7:37 pm),
—Why did you chose to show up today—
In the battle against Rafa, Fed fans have put their hope in Djoko . Karma boomeranged back.
^ Lame and illogical post!
Well, I’m writing after the match, but hats off to both players. Both Fed and Nole represent everything that is best about our sport…so classy, so gracious. Eventhough I’ve always been a huge Fed fan, I’m proud of both players.
scootd (at 7:57 pm)
…so classy
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4256/a8995dcdea8b040439cfbbf.gif
Uncle toni thinks so !
” I’m sure Rafael will come back to win this tournament. He has already won 2 times and played three more finals and still has the quality to win again. ”
” This year has been different from the last, the last two editions Rafa was playing badly, partly because of his physical condition and the transition to grass which is never easy for a player. But in these days was fit and was playing good tennis, if he had beaten Kyrgios, he could beat anyone. ”
” Despite Rafa play better during the second week and his form was good, we met a great player who has the good fortune to play on the surface which enhances his game. Tackling an opponent like that Kyrgios in 4 sets 37 ace serves not easy. Even Boris Becker when he came here 17 years beat all thanks to an extraordinary service. “
Interesting quotes from UT. Yes, in a way it’s a shame because Rafa was really playing much better this year and his physical condition was ok. I really think, he could’ve gotten past Milos and then Roger.
When Kyrgios won I also had Becker in mind. The big difference: Becker really went on to win the trophy after taking his first big scalps at the tourney. And he did it again the very next year against the No 1 of the world , Lendl. This repeat was one of Becker’s greatest feats IMO. Kyrgios is still along way from this.
@littlefoot,
I do think that Rafa would have beaten Milos and Fed. He would have been in the final.
As you pointed out, there is a huge difference between Kyrgios and Becker! Only time will tell if this guy does anything else worthwhile in tennis.
Rafa is 605 points behind Nole in the Race to London. With a good second half, Rafa can still finish No. 1.
He has less points to defend after the US Open than Nole.
#InsideJoke
https://twitter.com/juanjosetennis/status/485843532867837954
Nole has the Roger Slam.
Rafa has the Muzza Slam.
Well technically a Roger slam would be if someone beats him in the final of all four grand slams ! haha…but this is big nonetheless…
Another evidence of how darn strong this era is …. Djokovic is a great champion and had it not been for two of the greatest players ever, Novak would have won so much more.
The USO will be quite interesting. Novak has now revealed he was being plagued by self-doubts so this win would be huge. However, the total vanquishing of the demons will be done when he beats rafa in a slam because it has been rafa against whom Novak has struggled in slams the most since 2012 Aus open
Yes, the season leading up to the US Open will be most interesting. Can’t wait to find out, where the Big 3 1/2 will go from here:
Will Roger be able to do some damage even without a …um, very benign draw? If his two sets of twins aren’t too much of a distraction, I think he will. The raquet change proved to be a winner (I’m still cross with Sampras, that he never dared to make this move) and he’s a lot more consistent than last year. But I don’t see him winning multiple trophies, let alone another slam. There are too many younger players, who finally seem to come into their own. And if Rafa and Novak are healthly, they will likely get the better of Roger. Rafa more than Novak, though. But maybe Roger can shine at Cincy.
Will Novak go onto another 2011 like tear, now that he is fortified with a shining new slam trophy? Hopefully not, lol! But he will be a father soon. Let’s wait and see, how he handles that. And, as Vamosrafa pointed out, he still has to overcome Rafa at a slam. And he has to get to the final in order to do it. But I think, he will do very well for the rest of the season.
Will Rafa finally be able to defend a hard court title? I certainly hope so. It’s getting more difficult each year, since the young ones finally seem to be able to close the gap. But, unlike most of the post Aussie season, Rafa seems to be healthy now and his serve, which was very iffy post Australia, picked up big time at Wimby. And the 9th RG win took a huge weight from his shoulders. As Sampras always said: A season with a slam win is a successful season. Novak’s Wimby title, being No 2 again and Roger’s slam count being within striking distance (thanks, Nole!) should give him plenty of motivation.
As to Andy, I really don’t have a clue, where he is atm. Him doing better at RG than at Wimby? Losing to Dimi without winning at least a set? Strange. His back is fine now. No excuses. I don’t think, Mauresmo is right for him. Has nothing to do with her being a woman. But she didn’t have true grit as a player, or she would’ve won many more slams. And true grit is, what Andy needs. Lendl helped him there. I can’ see Mauresmo doing the same. I may be wrong. Time will tell, but I don’t see her lasting long as Andy’s coach. But I said the same about Becker and Novak, lol!
Yes Rafa has won the last four slam meetings between the two.
Djoker and Rafa never had the benefit of a weak era a la Fed.
From SI:
Go figure
143: Combined winners hit for Federer and Djokovic.
56: Combined unforced errors.
1948: The last time a player saved championship point in the Wimbledon final and came back to win (Robert Falkenburg). That record still stands.
12: Times Federer and Djokovic have met at the majors, tying the record held by Djokovic and Rafael Nadal.
2009: The last time a Slam final did not feature either Nadal or Andy Murray.
4: Breaks of serve for Djokovic. Federer has been broken once in 89 games entering the final.
This match was great for the same reason that 2008 and 1980 Wimbly’s we’re special.
Great quote from Tiggy’s take and Nole:
As Borg and Nadal were before him, Djokovic was put to the ultimate test in tennis—squandering a championship point at Wimbledon—and like them, he found the resilience to put it behind him.
“I could have easily lost my concentration in the fifth and just handed him the win,” Djokovic said. “But I didn’t, and that’s why this win has a special importance to me mentally. Because I managed to not just win against my opponent, but win against myself.”
I think that’s a revealing comment by Novak. It shows that he has been battling himself. I think awareness is key. He also said in one of his post-match interviews that when he took a bathroom break, he was yelling at himself – believe, believe in yourself! Rafa could have told him that’s what its all about.
yup….he was short of self-belief and this hard-fought win must give him a big boost
I thought I’ve seen it all. Seriously, Rafa fans worried that Djorkovic might not recover if he had lost another slam final??? I am sure this never crossed the minds of Federer fans, Djorkovic fans and Nadal haters when he was losing all those matches to Djorkovic in 2011, they would have been perfectly happy if Rafa never won another match!
Yeah Nadal fans couldn’t possibly be concerned for Djokovic
Liz, you’ve said it. There are Nadal haters who pretend to be his fans but are always against him in any discussion.
#fake fans
#looking both ways
well, which rafa fan here is ‘worried’ that djokovic might not have recovered??? If someone gave their opinion by analyzing the situation that djokovic might not have recovered, what is the problem ?
@Vamosrafa, well said. These remarks have nothing to do with being any player’s fan. It’s called analysing the situation and stating facts. Besides, last time I looked, this was a tennis and and not a fan site.
As a Rafafan I wasn’t worrying that another final loss might crush Novak, though exactlz that might’ve happened. But I’m worrying now, that he might go on another tear, lol! Hopefully Rafa and others can prevent that.
Congrats, first to Fed for his luck in not meeting Rafa before the final and to Djoko for not meeting Rafa in the final 🙂
Any opinion on below comment by a Rafan Gary Roy on ATP
Federer is back big time. As a Rafa fan who has proclaimed Rafa as the GOAT i now may have been premature as what i saw today from Federer suggests he may be morphing into the most all round player ever seen. He still has weaknessses but crucially his serve was devastating, his bh was firing winners, if his FH had been more considtent he would have won. He is beginning to volley more and in 6 months when it all comes together he is going to be hard to stop on any surface, including clay. I am more woried about Federer as Rafa can handle djokovic’s best if playing well, but if Federer puts it all together as he did at times today, Rafa, Djokovic etc wont have a chance. Alot like rafa did losing AO2012, Federer served notice tody he is back. I am cr*pping myself. Uncle Toni better get Rafa backhand hitting more winners rather than a rally shot.
once the emotion drains away and today’s match is analysed by the various players, Djokovic was the same as always, defensively very sound and consistent and moved well but shaky at big moments but granite like in his resilience. But there are weaknesses to go at for Rafa and a fit Del Potro. Federer’s bh was as good as ive seen it in about 8 years, he was taking it alot earlier and as such Rafa top spin will be negated. His volleys were excellent although he did often pick the wrong time and the wrong wing to go to the net. Against Djokovic always break the FH down, that will crumble under presure but Roger kept going to BH. But, Federer is chaanging his game and those aspects will improve. His serve was a monster. 29 aces against the greatest returner in the game is big news. What lost Roger the match wa…s his FH, it was too inconsistent, probaly because he has worked hard on all the other areas. Thing is, for me Fed FH when it is on is second only in history to Sampras’s. So, once he cuts out the errors on the FH and all those other areas are honed, i dont see him being beaten unless Rafa can improve his backhand. Rafa is aalso improving, his return of serve definitely getting better and his second serve was around 95 mph at wimbledon which is new so for me there are ncouraging signs but i think Federer is at a more advanced stage in the changes he is making. USO a proper 3 horse race now. But Federer definitely back in contention. He lasted 4 hours today, i didnt think he had it in him. He actually deserves the USO, then all 3 of the great players haevaa Major each.
—As a Rafa fan who has proclaimed Rafa as the GOAT i now may have been premature—
Again one SO-CALLED Rafa fan appeared on the scene!
#Fake fan
“his bh was firing winners,”
Fed’s BH fires against all players not named Rafael Nadal, idiot.
^^I am obviously referring to the Gary Roy poster referenced in @Sanju’s post………
No comments again on Noles drama in the 5th..taking medical break..ankle damage..pointing to ankle when things go wrong..all fine when he wins the point.. He did all of that in AO 2012 final and scraped the win, he did it again here..It surely disturbed Feds momentm no doubt about it
—No comments again on Noles drama…—
The Federazzi don’t comment because they still put their hope in Djoko in the battle against Rafa,
Sanju ( at 10:49 am),
Djoko took MTO also during the 2011 & 2012 US Open finals!
Djoko also too a toilet break at the RG13 SF also at the RG14 final.
2 things cost Fed the title..chipping and charging too much..Def a Egberg tactic but Novak not right opponent..he passed him so much ..
Fed gave up coming to net alomost in 5th..he would never have beaten Nole from the baseline..He should have gone for all out attack in 5th which he did not..Ofcourse his serve let him dwn massively in last 2 games
@Sanju, the analysis above about Federer’s game contains a kernel of thruth but is otherwise wildly exaggerating. It’s true that Roger plays much better than last season, and his innate talent is certainly still there. The raquet change has finally paid off and he is serving extremely well. But he can’t negate his age completely and nothing tells me, he will suddenly become a threat on clay again. Certainly not this season, lol!
Roger was hailed as being really back at the Aussie Open, but when he ran into Rafa, who was hampered by a blister, he failed to win even a set. Roger has always looked good against Novak, and yesterday he was playing him on his favorite surface, having had a very easy path to the final (unlike Novak). Novak isn’t an exceptional grass player and spent 5 hours more on court than Roger. You could as well argue, that despite all that Roger still wasn’t able to put Novak away.
But it’s certainly true, that Roger is much more dangereous than last year. It will be interesting to see, how he will fare on the hard courts. As I said above, Cincy might be his opportunity to shine.
@littlefoot,
I agree with you. Whoever wrote that comment was reading way too much into Fed’s performance in this final. Obviously, Fed is doing better than last season. He had nowhere to go but up. But as you said so well, there is no solution to getting old in sports. Every great champion has to get old. That will continue. Fed is not suddenly going to beat Rafa in slams. It’s true that this was Fed’s best surface and Novak’s worst surface.
I don’t see Fed being able to beat Rafa or Novak in a slam final anymore.
blablabla,, here we go again.. Fed is back, he’s the greatest, he’s skill is better than ever, this and that… remind me again next time he’s packing his bags after losing to Rafa
Shireling says: July 7, 2014 at 12:39 pm
+1
Rinse and repeat………….
RT @juanjosetennis: ‘Novak Djokovic now has 2 Wimbledon titles. Just 1 US Open title. And no French Open titles.”
I hope I am not starting an argument with this article:
“3. Wimbledon crowds REALLY don’t love Novak
I already said this earlier in the week and I’m just going to repeat it, because it was evident again in the final. The crowd were behind Federer all the way through the final. Not as aggressively as they were for Murray last year (not possible!) but they were pro-Fed non-the-less. It must be difficult for Novak to see it as Pro-InsertName rather than anti-Novak because, let’s face it, it’s starting to feel a little anti-Novak. -”
See more at: http://www.changeovertennis.com/things-learned-finals-weekend-2014-wimbledon/#sthash.KTEygsa4.dpuf
The authors of this article are not the only ones who write about the disrespectful behavior of the crowd.
Gussie. I simply do not understand how anybody can possibly describe the Wimbledon crowd behaviour as disrespectful.
… and 4 AOs…
Well, it ain’t a secret that Fed is idolised at Wimby. Besides, Novak’s ever-changing demeanor is not to everyone’s liking
“……..Novak’s ever-changing demeanor….”
Bingo! Now I know why I cannot quite place him: will the real Novak please stand up?
I see him as a nice guy and a terrible opponent, he’s just a little immature in the way he handles his emotions on court. Maybe he doesn’t bear success and fame as well as take Fed or Rafa. Also his camp is a tad too belligerent for a tennis entourage, what do u think?
I loved the pictures of Popsi and Sock celebrating winning the doubles title. The sheer joy and wonderment on their faces were a delight to watch. Watching Djokovic I always have the feeling he is taking a sadistic delight in having beaten his opponent rather than the win itself. And yes, his entourage’s reactions heighten this impression.
Shirling@3:08pm
You have hit the nail on the head. Federer has the carefully cultivated, well mannered ‘anybody for tennis’ image that sits well with the traditional Wimbledon audience. I doubt they will ever totally embrace Djokovic no matter how hard he tries: I think they instinctively mistrust his chameleon nature and see through his antics.
Djoko should wear costumes ‘that sits well with the traditional Wimbledon audience’. 😆
http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article401835.ece/alternates/s615/roger-federer-pic-reuters-image-1-181118962.jpg
I loved the pictures of Popsi and Sock celebrating winning the doubles title. The sheer joy and wonderment on their faces were a delight to watch. Watching Djokovic I always have the feeling he is taking a sadistic delight in having beaten his opponent rather than the win itself. And yes, his entourage’s reactions heighten this impression.
Sorry about the double post.
My goodness, what a pick Augusta! All that’s missing is a Pomeranian sticking out the side of the bag…
Thank goodness he gave up on the poncey OTT outfits after that debacle. In even worse taste was donning the jacket with 17 emblazoned on the back prior to receiving
the trophy.
poncey OTT 🙂