A forum to discuss all things related to the Women’s Tennis Association.
Copyright © 2024 | MH Magazine WordPress Theme by MH Themes
A forum to discuss all things related to the Women’s Tennis Association.
Copyright © 2024 | MH Magazine WordPress Theme by MH Themes
Tuesday in Singapore Red Group:
Halep vs Kerber. Chris Oddo, wtatennis.com, is picking Kerber in 3; and in
Cibulkova vs Keys he’s picking Cibulkova in 3.
Halep v Kerber is too close – I don’t have a pick. But Cibulkova is the stronger competitor in the second match. Cibby in 3.
More from wtatennis.com….
Semifinal Qualification Scenarios:
1. Halep qualifies if she wins in straight sets (final standings position in Red Group to be determined).
2. If Keys and Halep win, Halep qualifies as Red Group winner and Cibulkova is eliminated. (Keys and Kerber would play for second place Thursday).
3. If Kerber and Cibulkova win, Kerber qualifies as Red Group winner and Keys is eliminated. (Cibulkova and Halep would play for second place Thursday).
4. Keys is eliminated if she loses in straight sets.
By the Numbers…
60 – Kerber earned her tour-leading 60th win on Sunday.
35 – Combined number of three-set wins in 2016 by Keys (17-6) and Cibulkova (18-10).
11-7 – Halep is the only Red Group player with a winning record against the other three players in her group.
If I can wake up at 5:00, my time, I’ll watch Halep vs Kerber!
? ?
Didn’t quite make it awake for the first set, but what I’m seeing now is very much all Angie. Not sure what’s going on with Simona . She’s not putting much energy into it and looks defeated. Angie wins 64 62. Angie very positive and says she likes the court. And apparently the court is slow with a sticky, grainy surface, they say. Maybe Simona hates it?
Well, time to go — can’t stay for Maddie and Cibby 🙁
Thats why the whole concept of these group formats to decide tournament confuses me so much, so many different permetations mean players can lose a couple of matches still qualify for the final, then win the whole thing, means a player can also take their foot of the pedal knowing theyve already qualified anyway, lose a match deliberatly to save themselves for the final, which means doubt is cast over the opponents win, there can be some great matches been the best 8 players in the world dont get me wrong, but i just wonder sometimes over the credibility of this tournament ….
Alison…I read your post yesterday but I was on my phone and in my car most of the day. I’m remembering why you aren’t a fan of Round Robin format. And I want to explain why I do like it in a Year End Final like this — but I’m woke up watching Svetlana and Karolina.
Kuznetsova is maybe the best all-around athlete on the WTA but she’s finally hitting the WALL, I believe. She’s lost her snap and at some point her legs are not going to respond. She was flying high on adrenaline in the first round against Aga. And credit to Karolina, she’s a solid competitor. You watch her, the angles she can get when she comes to net and when her serve is on – she isn’t a bad mover at all but she’s no Sveta, Angie, Woz, Simona, Aga. However, with more experience, I think Karolina can learn to over-power her opponents. She not good at bending, lowering her center of gravity though at this point.
My guess is that poor Svetlana might not want to get out of bed for the next match. Adrenaline eventually won’t work when her body says NO MAS!
Karolina should win this match but she might be giving it away – if she’s not careful, yep. Sveta gets her into a rally and Karolina hits an easy winner long… then hits one wide. Meanwhile Sveta is obviously struggling but continues to battle – never say die! LOL
I need Ben Pronin to explain it for me. The absence of his voice on Tennis-X is tough for me, Alison and he was abused and harassed on Tennis-X and seems like he’s gone forever now. Ben could explain it better than me – round robin formats being the right one for these showcase final eight tournaments. My brain is fried at the moment.
But you have a point, it’s your opinion and many share your opinion. Please take a rain check from me on the subject for now. 🙂
Kuzy’s face is flushed red – and she refuses to die. hahahaha she’s even making sounds like they are her last…and wins. Incredible effort. That has to be her last. Seriously. Well we’ll see how and if she recovers and can keep running next match. wow.
What a match!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kuznetzova rose to the occasion big time. Talk about the WTA providing value for money. Pliskova took Sveta to the wire.
Keep it up girls 🙂
It was a lot of good mixed in with pain and sheer determination from Sveta…again. Ed, I don’t see she can win the final here – it should be too much.
Now Aga’s coming on. And it’s tough for me to watch my Aga lose to anyone! Have to go to work, anyway.
Go Aga!!
Phew, Aga lives. 😀
Sorry for Garbine and credit to her winning huge at FO but her moods and energy most of the season have been depressing. Hope she can find a way to overcome whatever it is. Meanwhile Happy for Aga to get a win!
RC I Do get its prestige, but ive never been a fan of such formats even in football, i also think players kill themselves trying to qualify, but when they get there they a mostly too exhausted to make an impression when they get there, still the womens tourney seems much more open than the mens will be IMO, and theres been some great matches on the womens side, anyhow now i will take a raincheck on the subject lol 😉
Alison, your opinion is received and I absolutly respect it. Mine feeling and opinion is different and you might remember it… so unless you make me, I’ll spare you my paragraphs lol
Singapore matches have been great!!! I love WTF’s and YEC’s 😀 Dumb blond answer.
Pleased for Aga, Mugaruza needs to beat Kuzy to avoid a whitewash,salvage some pride, and even make the semis depending on other permetations, great matches today that im sorry i missed 🙁 ….
Hi alison! I’m going to post the permutations/scenario’s for you delight, soon 😀
White Group Scenarios, Wednesday Singapore:
If Kuznetsova and Radwanska win, Kuznetsova qualifies and Muguruza is eliminated.
If Pliskova and Muguruza win, Pliskova qualifies and Radwanska is eliminated.
Any other combination of results will mean qualification comes down to Friday’s matches.
So, Muguruza is out. Best of luck to her in 2017. Vamos Garbine!
Thankyou RC, i must admit it does confuse me some what though, im afraid its all as clear as mud hmm ….
Well alison, we only have to think about RR scenarios once a year, as tennis fans. And a year gives my brain plenty of time to forget exactly how it goes and why…
Muguruza still has to play Kuznetsova on Friday! And of course Aga still has to play Pliskova. Actually I like it, because these really are the best players of the year and even if Aga loses, she loses to Karolina, who has had a great year. May the best one win ?
But first, Red Group Thursday Schedule
Halep vs Cibulkova
Kerber vs Keys
The Standings and qualifications comes down to sets won and possiby, every now and then the games, I think, alison. And it does get confusing. Plus I don’t find the diagrams they print for the RR’s on the WTA site with the blue squares and names horizontal and vertical, helpful.
This is the type of graph that I require: http://www.flashscore.com/standings/xxIinqxb/v7uQNW9S/#table
Standings
# White Group MP W L S Pts Form
1. Kuznetsova S. 2 2 0 4:2 2 ✅ ✅
2. Radwanska A. 2 1 1 3:2 1 ✅ ❎
3. Pliskova Ka. 2 1 1 3:3 1 ❎ ✅
4. Muguruza B. G. 2 0 2 1:4 0 ❎ ❎
# Red Group MP W L S Pts Form
1. Kerber A. 2 2 0 4:1 2 ✅ ✅
2. Halep S. 2 1 1 2:2 1 ❎ ✅
3. Keys M. 2 1 1 2:2 1 1 ✅ ❎
4. Cibulkova D. 2 0 2 1:4 0 ❎ ❎
ratcliff (AT 5:55 PM) says: “I don’t find the diagrams they print for the RR’s on the WTA site…”
===
.
Do you mean this:
http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-Archive/posting/2016/808/MDS.pdf
Exactly that page, augusta. They are too slow at updating that clunky page, it’s mostly wrong when I check. Right now, those White Group standings are from yesterday.
Flashscore gives live updates for standings and is just easier to read 🙂
http://www.flashscore.com/standings/xxIinqxb/v7uQNW9S/#table
Shieldmaiden legend, Sveta talks about playing Round Robin’s at 4 minutes in 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Limehr-5eNU
Barbora Strycova 🙂 Love it!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BL8uwdzDUK8/
Cibby gets a surprise 2-0 from Simona and Halep is already out. Now it’s all up to Kerber vs Keys. If Keys gets a set she’s through, if she wins the match she has the 1st place. Nonetheless, Kerber is through and if she wins in straights, Cibulkova will be granted a place im the semis.
Red Group: 1. Kerber and 2. Cibulkova
White Group
Uh boy, Come on Aga!
Winner of Karolina v Aga is in the SF.
? Semifinal Saturday Singapore WTA Year End Final ?
Caroline GARCIA (FRA)
Kristina MLADENOVIC (FRA) [1]
vs
Bethanie MATTEK-SANDS (USA)
Lucie SAFAROVA (CZE) [3]
Not Before 4:00 pm
Svetlana KUZNETSOVA (RUS) [8]
vs
Dominika CIBULKOVA (SVK) [7]
Caroline GARCIA (FRA)
Kristina MLADENOVIC (FRA) [1]
vs
Bethanie MATTEK-SANDS (USA)
Lucie SAFAROVA (CZE) [3]
Not Before 7:30 pm
Angelique KERBER (GER) [1]
vs
Agnieszka RADWANSKA (POL) [2]
followed by
Andrea HLAVACKOVA (CZE) / Lucie HRADECKA (CZE) or
Ekaterina MAKAROVA (RUS) / Elena VESNINA (RUS) [4]
vs
Martina HINGIS (SUI)
Sania MIRZA (IND) [2]
So proud Aga made it into the SF! When Karolina broke her in the second set I though oh no. But Karolina can’t keep her highest level up for long enough yet. When the day comes that she more consistent at her best, there’s a good chance that Karolina will blow everyone off the court. I do like her mental cool, calm.
But Aga’s retrieving skills got her the break back to make it 5-3 and started serving for the match a bit shaky but still managed to go up 40-0. Karolina helped by over-hitting a couple forehands then got one point. But under pressure, Aga was solid and at her best when it mattered. Nice win for Aga to make the SF 75 63.
Tough match tomorrow with Angie.
Congrats to Dominika Cibulkova. I missed it and I’m sad for Kuznetsova.
Couldn’t miss this one two of my favorites – but can’t help rooting for Agnieszka.
I’ll be happy either way but GO Aga!!
Arrrgh. Not Aga’s day. Kerber is just too good. I’m happy for Angie.
Another great season for Agnieszka. ? for 2017!
Didn’t quite wake up in time. #Dammitall
But what I did see was incredible from both – Dominika refused to lose – reminded me of Monica Puig at the Olympics.
Very nice speech from Cibby giving credit to Angie for being her inspiration.
Congrats Cibulkova, wow.
rc,
You are still here keeping us updated on women’s tennis! Great job!
So Cibulkkva won. I hope to see the match on a replay. It sounds like a good one!
Oh yes, I can’t help it, Nny 😀
As manwerty mentions below, pick any (maybe minus one) match during Singapore and you’ll see some compelling tennis. I recommend a Kuznetsova match but Dominika’s fight this entire week and the reaction of her parents, whom I’ve never seen at one of her matches before, is pure joy.
rc,
Thanks for the heads up! It’s great to know that the women are really bringing it!
?
Saw only the second set, but that was so exciting tennis.
To all of those complaining about the level of women’s tennis – just watch any match from this year’s Singapore and then change your statement please.
Congrats to Domi and I’m just gonna remind that two days ago to get out of the group she had to defeat Halep in two and then hope than Keys won’t take a set of Kerber.
Fantastic battle second set. I’ll go see if I can find the highlights and the trophy ceremony.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXAceK6Mpr0#t=2.001901