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    • rc,

      Yes and constitutional legal experts are reminding us that this is why Nixon faced impeachment and conviction and had to resign!

      Trump’s comment about not wanting to prosecute Hillary Clinton also has legal scholars seeing red! It’s not within the President’s purview to decide if anyone gets prosecuted! That is up to the Department of Justice and the FBI!

      Someone needs to give Trump a copy of the Constitution or maybe read it to him!

      One can only hope that he will ultimately overreach and be impeached!

      • Nny,
        It gets worse every single day. There was that meeting between the msm top dogs and news anchors in which there was a prearrangement made for the meeting to be strictly off the record only. Our supposED (prime press) kissing the ring of King Trump agreeing to meet off the record – Sheesh. Okay, I calmed down and got over it. After all, I haven’t trusted mainstream media since probably late 2001, post 9/11.

        But you can listen to msm and filter it through the BS meter and find certain reliable programs that are not backed by big corporations or invaded by fake news. It’s all about using your common sense with a healthy amount of skepticism. I’ve come to trust Democracy Now and more recently, the Intercept. However, nothing is forever, at any point, any of these places can get diluted or their writers thrown off by an offer that can’t be refused. Amy Goodman has been golden for decades, though. Is NPR still trustworthy? maybe in some part? When Quicken Loans and Payday outlets are backing the program I’m listening to, I listen knowing there’s a percent of truth, depending on what was left out. PBS I treat the same way. I don’t trust any of the ring-kissers that were at that off the record meeting with Trump. It just feels too much like we are headed for a one party dictatorship when all the checks and balances disappear and there’s a press corps that is owned by the Tyrant.

        But I defaulted to optimism yesterday, I can still read, and revisit an old source, as in get a newspaper maybe with a higher corporate standard in journalism than TV. My plan was going to the NYT for more news, thinking they are better than NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN …NEVER considered Fox news, other than for a laugh.

        Now Trump has had his meeting with the New York Times, as you probably know. Is this a joke? Why doesn’t anyone have any b**** anymore? https://theintercept.com/2016/11/23/donald-trump-makes-the-new-york-times-great-again/

        • PS. I do think it’s amusing how Trump has flopped on many of his campaign promises. Now if he would just go the next steps and APPOINT BERNIE SANDERS as the real president. The ultimate bait and switch…but in a good way 😀

          • rc,

            Did you hear that Jill Stein raised $2.5 million dollars for a recount in the three rust belt states that cost Hillary the election? They haven’t even called Michigan yet.

            The last I heard Hillary was ahead by1.7 million in the popular vote! That is insane!

            I think that the cable news media is an absolute disgrace! They enabled Trump, didn’t push the issue of him not releasing his tax forms, tried to normalize his bigotry and misogyny. I have given up on MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC or CBS. It’ s a farce. The cable networks are owned by big corporations.

            The news is so dumbed down these days that it’s more like entertainment. I do think that the print media did a much better job of trying to expose Trump’s corruption and misdeeds.

            Trump will use his position as President to enrich himself snd bankrupt the country.

          • Nny,
            Yes….I’m following that count. Deja Vu – and way worse than Bush v Gore ? I’ve stopped having an appetite in the past few weeks but immersing myself in a music world much of the time for the anxiety.

            Wishing you a happy and peaceful ? day. 🙂

            Somehow missed the news that Bob Dylan won a Nobel Prize in October. There’s something happy! Mind boggling the extent of his poetic genius. I think his earliest work is (maybe) his best Dylan unplugged

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeP4FFr88SQ

          • i love bob rc. my favourite album is blood on the tracks – one of my fave albums by anyone.
            love bob, joni, leonard cohen…all amazing lyricists…

          • Oh goody, amy! nice to read you – and to hear you like Bob. I’ve been doing music marathons – trying to calm down. All the music I’ve posted (recently) is for shoring up some positive energy to fight on.

            Nina Simone…you know I had heard Sinnerman before but was not sure which artist did it. Anything pre-70’s, I have either been informed by my older siblings about or was taught by a piano teacher. I was a Leonard Cohen and Joni fan actually before being a Bob Dylan one.

            And Randy Newman has been doing some rather funny stuff – new stuff since October – almost posted one.

    • gosh rc that is quite spooky!…i have never downloaded any music onto the site and was thinking i would download some nina simone who i adore. the first track i thought of was sinnerman! it’s an amazing piece of music..am quite surprised you hadn’t heard it before…i know you have huge musical knowledge….
      for some reason i was thinking beforehand that that track was kind of appropriate for the times we are in..don’t know why exactly but it has something to do with resistance…

      • Well, I’m thinking I mistook the voice for a male one. Now, had I looked the piece up online before, hahaha, it’s quite obvious her voice is female!

        Since the invention of Youtube – wow, the access to classic videos like Tambourine Man and stuff even earlier! I didn’t realize how much I love really love Dylon unplugged. Like Waits, Cohen, Mitchell, his lyrics stand alone. Other music like that new artist Natalie Mering, it’s more about the sound of her voice and the arrangement than the lyrical content but she’s so young – I’ll give her time.

        • going to check out some of the early unplugged dylan on youtube rc. don’t know that stuff so well as i should. a week ago i came across some amazing footage of him and joan baez singing to huge crowds in 1963 in washington. wonder what that was for? would it have been about vietnam?
          come on bob come out for the fascist moron’s inaugration and let the people come out on the streets in huge numbers and drown him out…

          • Amy,

            I am old enough to remember those great concerts. The Vietnam War songs and protests wound come later in the 60’s. these were all about civil rights. That movement attracted many great artists.

            This all brings back wonderful memories. Dylan was a genius. I also remember the great Joan Baez. Magnificent voice! She and Bob Dylan were a couple, but had a bad breakup.

            I also turn to music to help me get through tough times like this. I have done it all my life. I think we are go to be tested as never before in this country. The hate groups have cone out of the depths to spread their toxic propaganda. The alarming rise in hate crimes already is cause for real concern. They seem to be energized by the election of Trump.

            I watched a documentary on cable tv last night that was about Hitler’s rise to power. There is so much more detail in these newer documentaries. It’s really unnerving to see some of the similarities between then and now. They showed how Hitler and Goebbels went after the Socialist Democratic Party which was the Communists. It was the news and the Communists who were their targets. The Nazis needed to get rid of the Communists to gain absolute power. Hitler did not have an easy time if it coming to power. But when he did, then he had the Communists killed and put in the first concentration camps.

            We must normalize Trump! We must be vigilant!

          • Sorry, I meant to say it was the Jews and the Communists who were Hitler’s targets! Not News!

            The challenges of typing on my iPhone!
            ?

          • ah thanks for that nny. wouldn’t it be wonderful to see dylan and others turn out for inaugration day in washington with massive crowds all singing and chanting in unison. if they had loudspeakers they could drown out the words of the odious fascist. that would really be something!
            ps i left a reply for you further up the thread…

          • amy, I’d never heard this before….and I’m going to post this version because the lyrics are right on the screen, and it’s not in Bob’s raspy, nasally voice of the 70’s onward; also it’s not him plaintively wailing in a clear voice of what I now love from the 60’s …but I’m also going to post the 1963 version knowing you love the poetry. And remember, yes, he wrote this before Kennedy was assassinated and before the Vietnam War got ramp’d up by Lyndon Johnson. He was drawing on WW2! Made me cry, simply because he’s writing about his dreams, what?…40, 50 years in advance of where we are now. Stunning and exquisite.
            This is dear to me, posting the unplugged first and I just want to take his face in my hands and kiss him.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ex-m-eEKsg

  1. http://bobdylan.com/songs/hard-rains-gonna-fall/

    Sad to have to say this but you have to be careful when searching his lyrics. There’s a lot of people that seek to twist his words and frame him (and his writing) in a very sinister light. I guess that’s not surprising, tho. And remember he did win a Nobel Peace Prize in October, barely a month ago. #jealousyiseverywhere

    A Hard Rain’s A-Gonna Fall
    WRITTEN BY: BOB DYLAN

    Oh, where have you been, my blue-eyed son?

    Oh, where have you been, my darling young one?

    I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains

    I’ve walked and I’ve crawled on six crooked highways

    I’ve stepped in the middle of seven sad forests

    I’ve been out in front of a dozen dead oceans

    I’ve been ten thousand miles in the mouth of a graveyard

    And it’s a hard, and it’s a hard, it’s a hard, and it’s a hard

    And it’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall

    Oh, what did you see, my blue-eyed son?

    Oh, what did you see, my darling young one?

    I saw a newborn baby with wild wolves all around it

    I saw a highway of diamonds with nobody on it

    I saw a black branch with blood that kept drippin’

    I saw a room full of men with their hammers a-bleedin’

    I saw a white ladder all covered with water

    I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken

    I saw guns and sharp swords in the hands of young children

    And it’s a hard, and it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard

    And it’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall

    And what did you hear, my blue-eyed son?

    And what did you hear, my darling young one?

    I heard the sound of a thunder, it roared out a warnin’

    Heard the roar of a wave that could drown the whole world

    Heard one hundred drummers whose hands were a-blazin’

    Heard ten thousand whisperin’ and nobody listenin’

    Heard one person starve, I heard many people laughin’

    Heard the song of a poet who died in the gutter

    Heard the sound of a clown who cried in the alley

    And it’s a hard, and it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard

    And it’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall

    Oh, who did you meet, my blue-eyed son?

    Who did you meet, my darling young one?

    I met a young child beside a dead pony

    I met a white man who walked a black dog

    I met a young woman whose body was burning

    I met a young girl, she gave me a rainbow

    I met one man who was wounded in love

    I met another man who was wounded with hatred

    And it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard

    It’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall

    Oh, what’ll you do now, my blue-eyed son?

    Oh, what’ll you do now, my darling young one?

    I’m a-goin’ back out ’fore the rain starts a-fallin’

    I’ll walk to the depths of the deepest black forest

    Where the people are many and their hands are all empty

    Where the pellets of poison are flooding their waters

    Where the home in the valley meets the damp dirty prison

    Where the executioner’s face is always well hidden

    Where hunger is ugly, where souls are forgotten

    Where black is the color, where none is the number

    And I’ll tell it and think it and speak it and breathe it

    And reflect it from the mountain so all souls can see it

    Then I’ll stand on the ocean until I start sinkin’

    But I’ll know my song well before I start singin’

    And it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard

    It’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall

    Copyright © 1963 by Warner Bros. Inc.; renewed 1991 by Special Rider Music

    • rc,

      Oh, this made me cry! ?

      Thanks so much for posting it! God bless dear Margot!

      I think that I am okay and then it hits me all over again. Then the sadness and grief overwhelms me. I am just hoping that the founding fathers did their work well and there will be enough protections in place to deal with the likes of Trump. He is what they feared most.

      I hope we can overcome, because it’s going to be a very hard time ahead of us.

  2. Trump’s lies have a purpose. They are an assault on democracy.

    But the president-elect should not be underestimated. His victories in both the Republican primary and the general election were stunning upsets, and he is now set to alter the course of world history. If he does not fully understand what he is doing, his advisers certainly do.

    Steve Bannon, former head of the white nationalist outlet Breitbart News, is Trump’s Karl Rove. He knows. In a recent interview with the Hollywood Reporter, Bannon suggested that the key elements in his strategy are dissimulation and “darkness.”
    “Darkness is good. Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That’s power,” he said. “It only helps us when they get it wrong. When they’re blind to who we are and what we’re doing.”
    That’s how Bannon ran the Trump campaign, and it appears to be how he’s running the transition team. Since the election, Trump has baited the press with a flurry of potential cabinet picks, instigated a bizarre fight with the cast of a Broadway musical, and concealed his true policy priorities behind a thicket of conflicting reports.
    It’s working. The media’s coverage of the Trump transition is blurry and confused. Stories that should be real scandals — such as Trump’s apparent efforts to manipulate international diplomacy for personal financial gain — get lost in the shuffle.

    https://thinkprogress.org/when-everything-is-a-lie-power-is-the-only-truth-1e641751d150#.lcp5qjlzo

    • Hawkeye,

      Thanks for posting this. The media is like putty in the hands of Trump. They are not smart enough or aware enough to even realize how tget are being manipulated.

      I think the Democrats have called for an investigation into Trump’s conflicts of interest. There should be enough on him to get him impeached.

  3. Capitulation nation: Steve Bannon’s media rehabilitation shows the press is surrendering without a fight
    Bannon is being dangerously normalized by The Boston Globe and New York Times, who call this probing journalism

    On the other hand, there is an almost institutional phobia to attaching words like “racist” or “white supremacist” to a person in Bannon’s position. Do that and you might be shamed by conservatives and even liberals who want you to “empathize” with the people who voted for Trump, not all of whom, you are told, are racists. This may be true, but they were certainly willing to tolerate a heck of a lot of racism when they cast their votes.

    In terms of the media’s recent profiling Bannon and seeking to understand him, this means not digging too deeply into the website he has run, in his own words, as a “platform for the alt-right” for the last few years. It means referring to Bannon’s white ethno-nationalism, reflected in Breitbart’s content, as a “dark, populist worldview.” It means digging up a cast of Bannon’s friends and loved ones to tell the reader, Why, there isn’t a racist bone in the man’s body!

    http://www.salon.com/2016/11/29/capitulation-nation-steve-bannons-media-rehabilitation-shows-the-press-is-surrendering-without-a-fight/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

    #WelcomeToYourNewNormal

    • This is what I was afraid of. This normalization of Bannon by the stupid and cowardly media. Trump can manipulate the media so easily. What good is a free press if it doesn’t do its job?

      Trump tweets out that people should lose their citizenship for flag burning! Someone doesn’t know about the First Amendment! Maybe someone can give Trump the Cliff’s Notes version of the Constitution! That might be a start!

      It’s beyond embarrassing for the President-elect to be showing his ignorance of our Constitution to the world!

      Maybe Trump’s tweets are meant to distract us from the fact that, far from draining the swamp as promised, Trump is bringing in the very Wall Street criminals who took the economy over a cliff in 2008 with their reckless and illegal financial activities!

      It’s like a cast of nightmarish characters! Scary!
      ☹️

    • Yep. What a mess. Trump doesn’t give a flying **** what the constitution says and has no intention of familiarizing himself with such a thing. Greed has no heart, soul, conscience or depth. And prepare yourselves to witness sucking up like never before in his billionaires club cabinet. #cronies #dopeinthefroglegsoup $$$$$

  4. Glen Gould is #1 for me. Born in Toronto 1932. Prepare to be amazed when the adagio starts at 2:25 and you can hear him hum, as GG does 🙂 The allegro parts are nice, but nothing compares to the four minutes of heavenly adagio. A continuous loop of it works well in my case. Gould is simply the best on the piano keys when it’s Baroque. Transcribed and arranged by – J.S. Bach for harpsichord, Concerto No. 3, for keyboard solo, D minor (BVW 974). Composed by a little known Venetian, Alessandro Marcello, 1717. https://www.glenngould.com/biography/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnJhq7_Er8o

  5. Trump’s idea of a Treasury Secretary. President-elect Negotiator says in yo’ face stupids, you fell for it!
    (too fuming to comment about the Education and HHS nominations: Betsy Vos and Tom Price, respectively)
    http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/morning-money/2016/11/dems-to-unload-on-mnuchin-217615

    Taking a wild guess that the Negotiator gave Mike Pence complete freedom to chose whomever he wanted on Education and HHS cabinet posts. But this Treasury pick is a Bannon/Trump Wall Street Crony, deluxe proportions. #BillionaireCabinetClub

    Mnuchin: “We think by cutting corporate taxes we’ll create huge economic growth and we’ll have huge personal income, so the revenues will be offset on the other side, Mnuchin said in the interview. The changes should help increase sustained U.S. economic growth, he predicted.”
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2016/11/30/mnuchin-outlines-largest-tax-change-since-reagan/94667050/

    Who is “we” in the, we’ll have huge personal income? Gotta go throw-up, please.

    • rc,

      Yes, Mnuchin is especially galling! The guy has a sordid and vile history of contributing to the disaster that caused the 2008 economic collapse! This is an in-your-face pick that lets us know exactly what to expect from Trump.

      I still cannot believe that people were stupid enough not to see through this con job! The wealthiest one or two percent will now have free reign to run the country.

      When they destroy the middle class once and for all, then what will this fools who bought his lies, think?

      This country is going to be unrecognizable. Everything Trump promised was a total lie. He fanned the flames of discontent and got people to not it!

      The other picks you mentioned are equally appalling. Everything I feared if he was elected is coming true.

      The Republicans want to privatize Medicare. How is that going to sit with the people who voted for him? I don’t know what the Democrats can do now that they are in the minority.

      Then there is the question of Trump divesting himself of his company to avoid a conflict of interest. Yeah, like he is really going to do it. Trump should face impeachment st some point, but I don’t think the GOP would have the guts or decency to do it!

      • Phew, Nny…

        Not a day goes by that I don’t spend as much time as possible reading and try to interpret my daily nightmare.

        Really there’s no way of knowing what Trump will do exactly but I think it’s cleat that whatever he does is going to be in his own best interest and 100% for the glorification of himself.

        Did you know Trump has hired creepy Tom Delay’s lawyer for advise on conflicts of interest?!!!
        http://www.salon.com/2016/11/29/donald-trump-is-hiring-tom-delays-lawyer-as-white-house-counsel-there-are-no-words/

        And I don’t know what you think of Glenn Greenwald but this is deeply interesting about Breibart and the far-right Nationalistic, anti-Muslim movements merging with pro-Israel ones on a bit of unsurprising common ground.
        https://theintercept.com/2016/11/30/growing-far-right-nationalistic-movements-are-dangerously-anti-muslim-and-pro-israel/

        • rc,

          Did you see the latest fiasco with Trump insulting China by taking that call from the Taiwanese leader? That didn’t take long!

          Then there was Trump paying off Carrier to save done jobs with tax subsidies to the tune of about 7 million dollars! Trump throws a bone to some people and saves their jobs, while setting a dangerous precedent for companies to make demands on the government for concessions to keep some jobs in this country!

          I don’t trust the far right to not be anti-Semitic. They may be going after Muslins now, but they will go after the Jews at some point.

          Trump has unleashed these fascist elements and they will get louder and stronger. Any time Trump gets in trouble, he will hold a rally and get his supporters in a frenzy.

          It’s called cult of personality and it’s a key to fascism. These people follow Trump and believe whatever he says without question. It’s really scary.

          It’s hard watching or reading the news anymore.

    • Alison,

      Thank you so much for that link! It’s not always about words. It’s about knowing that people care and are supportive.

      There will be tough times ahead.
      ☹️

      • thanks for the kind thought alison. it’s very much appreciated…
        just popped in here to express my joy that the green candidate won the austrian presidency and smashed the far right!! massive win in europe….apparently the far right party said that fascist farage’s support worked against them! hahaha….so pleased to see europe fight back! huge day in the fight against fascism…

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