Rafael Nadal

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Nadal 5

Current ranking: 14

Last result: Australian Open second round (lost to Mackenzie McDonald)

Next tournament: Roland Garros

170 Comments on Rafael Nadal

    • ‘Criticize the content/views of posts with a supported counter-argument, not the poster..’

      This is extremely well said!

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    • Someone says: July 22, 2015 at 3:10 pm

      Where am I posting from?
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      +1, too good!

      #Rickyisthebest

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  4. Nobody here should be gloating because there is plenty of blame to go around.

    My concern is about Mary. As I said yesterday, this person is not here for the right reasons. She came here with an axe to grind and her issue is primarily with me. I can’t talk about tennis without having her jump all over me and twist and distort my words or bring up where I live and attack me for supposedly saying personal things about my life. It’s been going on for too long now.

    I don’t want to see the kind of vitriolic attacks on me when I am trying to participate in tennis discussions. I would appreciate it very much if it was stopped.

    I also think there has been too much of this business of – since you said this, I can say that. Pointing fingers and justifying attacks on others while not taking responsibility for one’s actions.

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  5. Best thing: reset button has been hit by Ricky. Now it will become obvious if anyone tries to create a mess or indulges in personal attacks.

    #Scrutiny

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    • vamosrafa,

      One can only hope! As long as we know that Ricky is watching and making sure that the discussions stay on topic. No more of the toxic, gratuitous personal attacks, please.

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  6. Let’s see if the discussion will be about tennis. That would be refreshing for a change! Just maybe we can watch Rafa and talk about him and the tennis.

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  7. just read the attack on lucky…just ugh!!! oh and it’s the same old same old using respect for rafa as the pretext for gratuitous personal attacks. the real problem when anyone attacks in this way is with them and their ego…..oh and some serious anger management issues….
    actually it’s appalling to hide behind ‘love’ or ‘respect’ for rafa in order to attack people who happen not to share your point of view. no-one who really cared about him would exploit his name in that way.
    ‘mary’ does this constantly.
    these kinds of attacks shouldn’t be tolerated.

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    • ^+1

      amy, those attacks were disgusting to say the least. Luckystar was brilliant

      your insights are now a very good addition to tenngrand though 🙂

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      • thanks so much vamosrafa!!! can we try and tempt luckystar back?? do you know where she posts now??
        sorry for losing my temper but i couldn’t believe the vitriol of those attacks…

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      • as an entertaining tennis aside..if you remember the SI article you quoted from they didn’t select players for best slice or lob..any suggestions??
        how about fed and muzza for best slice?

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      • @amy, it was an article from NY times 🙂

        Yes, Muzz and Fed have the best backhand slice in my view as well.They have got different slices but both have very effective ones. I think fed has the best followed by Muzz. Fed uses it as an offensive weapon a lot but his backhand slice is also one of the best shots ever to defend and also to turn defense into offense… Muzz USUALLY uses his slice either as a defensive shot (esp when he is made to stretch on his backhand side) or as a pace-changer in rallies to set up for big shots like backhand DTL.

        As far as the lob is concerned, I think Muzz and then rafa have the best lobs. I agree that Novak is usually good with lobs but never extraordinary. Fed’s lobs are also pretty good. Hewitt definitely comes to mind when speaking of great lobs. And I am talking about offensive lobs here , primarily.

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      • oh yes vr, remember that now! ie article not from SI…
        was very surprised that rafa did not figure at all in the best overhead category….
        his overhead is so strong! i think that fed topped that category, no???

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      • steffi was amazing. My all-time fav.

        Just thinking of that attacking slice, I can still picture her form.

        Was lucky to be at RG to see her play in the FO final in her last slam win against a young Martina Hingis..

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      • was confusing the NY article with the si one on best rivalry….they had asked people to vote on top 4 rivalries……
        first was rafole…second fedal, third fed-djoker……all the 3 andy rivalries got a tiny proportion of the vote…
        rafole and fedal were very close in numbers as you would expect…
        shows how much the game misses a fully functioning rafa as he dominates at the level of the top rivalries and greatest matches…..

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      • rafa disagrees…..says he is not macho…..!!
        is actually not very macho constantly telling the press about your nerves, anxiety &tc…no other male player does this…..

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      • Yes, I was joking about the macho.

        Steffi is a fantastic idea! Or maybe even start a new trend by having the first married couple as co-coaches along with Andre!

        Beni and I will be discussing the possibilities of a female coach like Andy has done and now Spain’s Davis Cup team if ever I get there. Was diverted to Romania of all places yesterday and now in Hong Kong!!!

        Crazy air travel these days.

        Will keep you posted.

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      • mmmm….hong kong….are you trying to keep ricky guessing by constantly changing your ip location?? hmmm first the maestro puzzle, now the gadfly air-travel….suspicious…!!
        yes was thinking about the steffi and andre thing but i thought given your love for pete you might not care for andre??
        so beni is a feminist….? interesting…….

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  8. *Yawn*
    That was fun, thoroughly entertaining stuff while it lasted. Like I said yesterday, the most I’ve been entertained on Tenngrand in a while. Threatened to get out of hand a bit mais………pas mal!

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    • Speaking for myself, I did not find the attacks on me as entertaining in any way, shape or form. It’s appalling. As I said previously, that person is not here for the right reasons. This is not the place to deal with any anger or grievances that someone has against anyone here. There is no place for that on a site that should be devoted to good tennis discussion.

      I hope to be able to discuss tennis, including Rafa, without being subjected to these vicious attacks that are meant to humiliate and embarrass.

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  9. Now that the “confusion” has been sorted, I can get back to some work, and watch Rafa live next week………..telenovela over!

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  11. We are still in July…………..the official silly season for non-news is August 😉

    #TheDevilFindsWorksForIdleHands

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    • Well, they do say when you are close to someone, or relate to someone closely, you become like them, in mannerisms, physical appearance etc. Am sure I have read somewhere some of Rafa’s fans say he has OCD, which is a mental illness. Go figure.

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    • Did Uncle Toni claim that Rafa has OCD? A ritual repeated over and over again may not necessarily be OCD. Church services make people go through the kneel, sit stand routine repeating the same prayer everyday. Do all those people have OCD? Most people have morning rituals they repeat obsessively everyday, the soldiers perform set movements called their drill, great performers in every field also have set routines which they perform everyday. Basically a set of rituals is created by most of us so that we can perform the daily tasks without missing anything or to set the mood for a state of mind as in the church or a state of mental and physical preparedness as in the army. Diagnosis of OCD requires Rafa to have a personal consultation with a qualified doctor because there is a thin line between rituals performed to create the necessary state and OCD which is a mental illness. We know nothing about his personal life. Does he follow meaningless rituals before eating, sleeping, walking, golfing, fishing?

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      • Mary says:
        July 23, 2015 at 3:03 pm,
        —Did Uncle Toni claim that Rafa has OCD?—
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        Armchair doctors have claimed that Rafa has OCD.

        20 minutos, May 10, 2012: ¤¤ Toni Nadal: “Rafael es un tío normal que juega bien al tenis.” ¤¤
        [Google translation. Toni Nadal: “Rafael is a normal guy who plays good tennis.”]

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      • “Man,” his coach and uncle Toni Nadal said, “He will tell you what you want, but I am zero obsessive. At first I didn’t mind, but a player who puts bottles in line with the court and will not step on lines is obsessive.

        “Once he told me about a movie As Good As It Gets. He was saying how superstitious the main character was and I said: ‘He’s like you’. And he replied: ‘No, no’. When you do senseless things over and over, you’re superstitious. He has told me before he can stop doing them and I have told him to do it. “I like things that are logical. It does not affect his game but if he needed those things to play well, it would be bad.”

        Nadal does need them. It is not just in tennis. Two hours after his seventh French Open title, we sat alone in the grandstand of Court Philipe Chatrier when Nadal walked out with an army of family members. Photographs were taken with the trophy.

        When it was all done and cloud-dusted, when Nadal had finished contemplating the empty arena for memory’s sake, and after the high-heeled shoes of his mother and girlfriend had stopped boring holes into the surface, he stood back so that everyone else could vacate the premises first. And then when he thought no one was looking, he still went out of his way to avoid stepping on the lines.

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      • Rafael Nadal calls them his ”routines”, but a psychologist who specialises in obsessive-compulsive disorder has warned against trivialising or even mocking the Spaniard’s habitual on-court behaviours, fearful of the distress it could cause sufferers of the disabling mental illness.
        Dr Christopher Mogan was so outraged by commentary from Jim Courier and Lleyton Hewitt during Nadal’s third-round match against Gael Monfils that he contacted Channel Seven to complain.
        It is possible it could be just a manifestation of the control athletes seek to get.

        He said it was impossible to diagnose somebody without speaking to them, but felt the world No.1 ”seems to have a psychological disorder which is being ridiculed”.

        ”What upset me is that I think it’s known that Rafa has obsessive-compulsive indications,” Dr Mogan said. ”Two to 3 per cent of people have this seriously disabling condition and they would be identifying with him – when he does his square walk … how he places his bottles in a row, very carefully.
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        ”They are routines, but the point is they’re meant to try and control anxiety. It’s about getting a ‘just right’ feeling: ‘I can feel just right if I line my bottles up.’ It brings a sense of completion, and if you leave something incomplete, it creates a stress.”

        Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/doctor-warns-against-trivialising-rafael-nadals-oncourt-routines-20140121-316w8.html#ixzz3gjcnkODy

        While it may or may not have been to the point of a disorder when this was written 18 months ago, it has now IMO thanks in no small part to the clever new Rafa Time Violation Rule brought in three years ago to single out Rafa and make him rush through his rituals creating more anxiety. Not a diagnosis, Even the good doctor above says that.

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      • July 23, 2015 at 5:05 pm
        —Rafael Nadal calls them his ”routines”, but a psychologist who specialises in obsessive-compulsive disorder—
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        Armchair doctors can’t be taken seriously!

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      • July 23, 2015 at 4:57 pm
        —“Man,” his coach and uncle Toni Nadal said, “He will tell you what you want, but I am zero obsessive. At first I didn’t mind, but a player who puts bottles in line with the court and will not step on lines is obsessive.—
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        Uncle Toni spoke in Spanish and the word ‘obsessive’ is the interpretation of the translator.

        Thank you for posting the proof that Toni hasn’t claimed that Rafa has OCD!

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      • Well this site has been taken over by a bunch of fanatical fans who believe
        Belief 1: Rafa is mentally ill and is an idiot to boot
        Belief 2: Uncle T is a monster and deserves the big heavo-ho
        Belief 3: Rafa is not popular but is disliked ( his facebook and Twitter stats be damned!). Hence the banging on about how he is hated in France and as proof an article written by Cheryl Murray in 2009 is religiously brought up although we do not know how long her nose is and whether what was written in 2009 can still be claimed to hold for all time. In 2009, Fed had more fans. It is no longer true. Secondly, there maybe more Fed fans attending tennis matches because they are older and therefore on an average have more disposable income than young Rafa fans….Thirdly does RG crowd represent whole of France?
        Belief 4: Djoko has the best ROS.
        Stats show Rafa and Andy rank higher in ROS than Djoko but stats be damned, Djoko is the best.

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      • Mary says:
        July 24, 2015 at 3:06 am,
        —an article written by Cheryl Murray in 2009 is religiously brought up…—
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        The article written in 2011, after Rafa defeated J.Isner. Somebody made up a story that “when the result was flashed on to the screens of Suzan Lenglen (i.e. FAR away from the Philippe Chartier court, where Rafa & Isner played), the news was met with SOME boos and hisses.” And somebody else resized “SOME boos” to “HALF the STADIUM booed.”
        (Somebodies had nothing to say about the spectators of the match – they didn’t boo – that’s why somebodies made up stories about people somewhere far away.) 😆

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      • “They say it themselves and it’s true, the Parisian crowd is pretty stupid. I think the French don’t like it when a Spaniard wins. Wanting someone to lose is a slightly conceited way of amusing yourself. They show the stupidity of people who think themselves superior.”

        -Uncle Toni, 2009

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      • http://issues.tennistuesday.net/05-19-2015/p/3

        “When I started watching one morning during last year’s French Open, I was surprised to see that their flavor du jour was Austrian Dominic Thiem. They were rooting for him because of who he was playing: Rafael Nadal. Rafa may be a nine-time champion at Roland Garros, but his earliest nickname in Paris was “the Ogre,” and the image among tennis fans in France has stuck. Even more amazing than Nadal’s 66-1 record in Paris is the fact that virtually every match he has played there has been the equivalent of an away game in team sports.”

        “Literally—I’ve heard Federer referred to as “Jesus” at Roland Garros more than once. By comparison, Nadal, at least in the eyes of the French, uses a physically bullying style to grind opponents down. The fact that Nadal the Ogre has beaten Jesus Federer all five times they’ve played in Paris has only added insult to injury.”

        “This tournament is so important,” Nadal said, “such a beautiful tournament for me. Well, that’s the way it is. But I wish when I’m back they can support me a bit in key moments.” (2009)

        “As far as I know, the French haven’t booed or hissed at him for a while, and they even sang “Happy Birthday” to him a couple of years ago. Should they take the next step and finally embrace their nine-time champion? It would be nice—and who knows, it might even make Rafa drop his guard and lose a match or two. But I get a kick out of the Rafa-at-RG dynamic. I respect, in a perverse way, the crowd’s stubborn consistency in giving Nadal the cold shoulder. And I respect Nadal’s record there even more because of it.”

        🙂

        #BrokenRecordsAreEverywhere

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      • The article posted on July 24, 2015 at 2:48 pm have religiously been brought up by hawk here countless times!
        And the author of the article (or his bosses) have published the same article at least 2 times – in 2014 & 2015! The author is quoting Rafa’s words he said in 2009 (6 years ago!), So, he couldn’t find anything newer!
        Let’s see how many times/years it all will be religiously repeated!
        😆

        (I used Mary’s word “religiously brought up”)

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      • https://tenngrand.com/social/player-pages/rafael-nadal/comment-page-66/#comment-207157

        The comment posted on July 24, 2015 at 7:19 am has religiously been brought up by aug here countless times!
        And the author of the post have published the same thought at least 20 times – in 2014 & 2015! The author is quoting her own words she said over and over. So, she couldn’t find anything newer!
        Let’s see how many times/years it all will be religiously repeated! 😆

        (I used Mary’s word “religiously brought up”)

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      • July 24, 2015 at 3:47 pm,
        —Uncle Toni, 2009—
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        hawk has religiously repeated U.Toni’s words he said in 2009, after hooligan-Fedfans booed Rafa when he lost to Söderling. So, hawk hasn’t found anything newer!
        Let’s see how many times/years Toni’s words will be religiously repeated! 😆

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  15. Rafa is raising future tennis champions. 🙂 Currently, kids are playing at the Rafa Nadal Tour in Madrid.
    From the Tour website: The Rafa Nadal Tour by MAPFRE was created by Rafa Nadal Foundation and Rafa’s sponsor MAPFRE last year. It’s a junior tennis circuit tour for boys & girls under 13 and under 15 years old. It was held in 4 towns in Spain in 2014 and is being held in 7 towns in 2015 (Barcelona {twice}, Sevilla, Alicante, Valencia, Saragoza, Madrid and the final somewhere in Mallorca).

    Via Rafa Nadal Foundation:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKl-ldFWwAA1dSt.jpg

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