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A page and forum to discuss all things Novak Djokovic.
Current ranking: 1
Last result: Banja Luka quarterfinals (lost to Dusan Lajovic)
Next tournament: Rome Masters
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#SmokeSignals
Why would any Djokovic fan ever want to join this “community” if this is how most people here talk about him? These aren’t even tennis related, they are just mean spirited personal attacks on his family and private life.
@snowdevil,
Just try to ignore it. 🙂
nothing new… djokovic gets plenty of ‘respect’ here and that is very obvious…
funniest thing is that often we rafa fans are complaining that we don’t want to be on sites like tennis-x because of the way posters treat speak of rafa… i don’t see how this is different in any way ! haha….
“Why would any Djokovic fan ever want to join this “community” ”
Same reason as you I guess?
#Musings
vamosrafa,
Yes! I agree with you. It’s unfortunate that there are no Novak fans to come here and speak on his behalf. It’s really disconcerting to see these types of insults directed at Novak, his fiancé and mother and their looks. I know that Rafa fans expressed their outrage on tennis-x and even on TT when people came on the site and attacked Rafa, his girlfriend and his parents. All the more reason not to do the same.
@snowdevil,
Sorry, but I was wrong to tell you to try and ignore it. You were right to say what you did. I think it’s important to speak up if one feels strongly about it.
Some of you need a sense of humour. Of course the resident crowd pleaser is on duty, again.
Let’s see how funny you think it is when someone goes after Rafa, his girlfriend, his father, his mother, his “faking” injuries!
Some people have short memories as to what we used to read on TT from the haters. Also, what passes for normal conversation on tennis-x.
haha…. tennis-x and some other sites are hatred spewing sites because they say too much bullcrap about rafa….true, we don’t feel comfortable there…but HOW are those websites diff from what is now going on at the grandstand ?! anti-rafa’s rivals hub is what this is becoming which is a pity…
I have my own barometer. I just need to look at how rafa deals with all this. he even got abused by Rochus for doping. His response was CLASS. he is immensely respectful toward fellow rivals and often defends them ! I remember when fed was on a decline in 2008, rafa was quick to defend him ! when people started saying fed is an old man, rafa completely dismissed such ideas! That’s how rafa deals with all this.
Nadline Rafa is a liar and his Uncle is conceited and his girlfriend xisca is as ugly as his mother and if you are offended by that then it’s your fault for having no sense of humor.
snowdevil@May 4, 2014 at 5:59 am
You wrote that you used to be ts38 at Tennistalk (one of the few Roddick fans).
When did you become a Djoko fan? I remember that there were 3 – 4 Djoko fans on Tennistalk. (I don’t count angry legionaries of the Federazzi who pretended to be Djoko fans. They pretended this solely because they wanted to attack Rafa)
Im not a Djokovic fan. There is a collective mentality here that if somebody speaks on a players’ behalf they are automatically a fan of that player only and an enemy of everyone else.
snowdevil@May 4, 2014 at 8:18 am
What’s the reason you speak on THIS player’s behalf?
I have seen some here say they long for a diversity of opinions and fans of players other than Nadal on this site. I was just calling the bs as I saw it. I would have said the same thing if it were Federer or Murray, or probably anyone for that matter (except Bellucci. I cannot stand Bellucci).
snowdevil says:May 4, 2014 at 11:58 am
“I would have said the same thing if it were Federer or Murray, or probably anyone for that matter (except Bellucci. I cannot stand Bellucci).”
So, are we to infer that if it had been Bellucci at the “receiving end”, you would have either kept quiet or agreed with the “bs”?
Put another way, what is the difference between your statement above and the following?
“I would have said the same thing if it were Federer or Murray, or probably anyone for that matter (except Djokovic. I cannot stand Djokovic).
Not judging your likes and/or dislikes, @snowdevil, you are entitled to those. Just wondering: you are allowed to “not stand” Bellucci but other people are not allowed to “not stand” Djokovic? *head-scratch*
Personally, couldn’t care less about Djokovic or Bellucci, but hey………….cuts both ways this judgmental thing, no?……………
Oh, and I’m all for a diversity of opinions and fans of players other than Rafa on this site…………….including Bellucci’s!
snowdevil@May 4, 2014 at 11:58 am
—I have seen some here say they long for a diversity of opinions and fans of players other than Nadal on this site—
As for me, I don’t miss attackers.
yes, no attackers please… but not every non-rafa fan is an attacker ! there are many decent fans too…abhirf is one of them here….
That was a joke. Bellucci is a random journeyman who garners little to no attention from anyone. Scratch your head with that one for a while.
What, You didn’t hear me laughing?? *I must try harder next time*
Of course I got the joke, @snowdevil. You and only you get to decide which player is worth respecting on this site.
snowdevil@May 4, 2014 at 3:24 pm
I like to watch T.Bellucci! His face reminds me of Italian Renaissance sculptures.
Ugh look you’re missing the point. Everybody is allowed to dislike any player they want for whatever reason. That doesn’t make it okay to go on a pubic forum and start making vile attacks on their families and personal lives. And if you feel so strongly about your right to do so anyway then you’re no better than the “Rafa haters and Federazzi” you’re always whining about.
Thou protesteth too much, @snowdevil! We heard you twice the first time……….hehehe!
Lighten up, find yourself a tennis match to watch, sans Bellucci of course!
Enjoy.
Wow. snowdevil chillax dude.
Frankly, I don’t see anything wrong with saying Jelena looks like Nole’s mum. I happen to think that Nole’s mum is a good looking woman so it’s a compliment to Jelena.
yeah right…it’s just that when ardent rafa fans highlight an ongoing deficiency in his game or point out a flaw in his game, they are called rafa detractors…or if a rafa fan or a decent fan of any other player dares to say uncle Toni’s approach towards rafa can sometimes backfire, that is labelled blasphemy… BUT its totally fine to ridicule other players, their coaches, their family…. I see…… of course we have a rafa bias but …this is different…much different..
vamosrafa@May 4, 2014 at 6:14 am
I’ll always defend Rafa (& his team & family) – no matter what, I don’t care whether his critics likes it or not.
what do you mean by ‘critics’ ? are you by any chance including me in there too..I hope NOT !
The common thing between us is that we are hardcore rafa fans and we defend him as much as we can. However, I never do it at the cost of disrespecting and now even insulting his rivals but you seem to do that very conveniently. Anyway, you have your own way and I have my own .
lastly, i have NO clue how ‘I’ll always defend Rafa (& his team & family) – no matter what, I don’t care whether his critics likes it or not.’ is linked to what I have said.
vamosrafa@May 4, 2014 at 12:03 pm
—i have NO clue…is linked to what I have said—
You said at 6:14 am, “or a decent fan of any other player dares to say uncle Toni’s approach towards rafa can sometimes backfire, that is labelled blasphemy”
I haven’t used the word ‘blasphemy’, but I have argued.
since when have we started taking words for their literal meaning, Augusta? calling it a capital offense or a blasphemy does not mean someone actually said that ! You know what I was trying to convey, and that is enough.
I have argued much more than you have with haters and other posters through the year at TT and to date at the grandstand. The reason is that I have come up with long essays time and time again to defend rafa by attempting to put forward logical arguments. I don’t come up with 1-2 liners saying that rafa is the greatest or that there is nothing wrong rafa has ever done. When I say it, I TRY my best to logically prove it. So this is how my approach is different from yours…
vamosrafa@May 4, 2014 at 12:37 pm
You said: ‘i have NO clue…’ I explained.
nadline28 says:
May 2, 2014 at 1:09 pm
Jelena looks like a young Dijana.
What’s insulting about this?
and yea, poor djokovic’s wrist injury is a total fake ! only rafa can have genuine injury issues…
On the contrary, Rafa’s 7 months injury time out was deemed to be a fake and worse, by Nole fans. Go to TW and see insults being thrown at Rafa on nearly every Nole fans’ post…………..and I mean real insults.
i am equally well aware of those abuses and insults hurled at rafa…and I have spoken against them a million times….
so this is your reason for treating other players and their injury issues like that? thats very pitiful then. You are implying it yourself that you are no different from those haters who kept ridiculing rafa even during the darkest and toughest period of his career…
I am just stating the facts. Nole did announce that the doctors had given him the all clear that there was nothing wrong with his wrist he just needed to rest it and that he was fit to play. You can’t deny that he hasn’t got form in this at MC last year, threatening to pull out then running around like a rabbit on a supposedly injured ankle.
Some people feel that only Rafa is fair game and everyone else is sacrosanct. We all have a right to question anything we think is questionable. It seems like anyone who questions a player other than Rafa is being offensive.
Being skeptical about the severity of Nole’s back/ankle/wrist injuries is not the same as accusing him of faking.
It’s not skepticism. It’s derisive comments about him. There is a difference. I am just really struck by this inability and/or refusal to see that this is the exact same thing that the haters have done to Rafa throughout his career. Since when do two wrongs make a right? Is this a vengeance crusade?
Just to be clear, using attacks on Rafa to justify doing the same to other players is a very poor justification as far as I am concerned.
Novak has been blatantly accused of faking here many times. But then I was accused of being a bad Rafa fan on TT because I spoke up in his defense regarding the ankle injury last year. One would think it was a capital offense. I was derisively called Novak’s new champion. Why? Because I said that I didn’t think he was faking? That was my opinion. It didn’t mean that I was his fan or whatever. There are things that I don’t like regarding his behavior, especially towards Rafa in the past. However, that doesn’t mean that I have to trash him every chance I get.
completely synonymous with all this. haha…. you are one of the most ardent and loyal rafa fans out there and you have been given those names multiple times lol..
vamosrafa,
Thank you for saying this. It’s really hard to deal with being accused of not being a good Rafa fan. Being called out on a public forum in that way, is disturbing. It’s not like anyone here is God or has a book on how to be a Rafa fan. There are no rules. Yet some presume to set themselves up as judge and jury and decide who is a Rafa fan and who is not.
I can’t see where anyone said they were doing this because Rafa has mud thrown at him all the time. People are expressing their opinions as is their right. Advocates for Nole are free to defend him without falsely accusing others of their intentions and trying to gag any opinions expressed without malice.
When you watch the superhuman lunges and the stress he inflicts on his body the miracle is Nole has never suffered a serious injury let alone been sidelined from the tour for months.
^^Novak’s been very lucky in that respect (so has Fed). I am not privy to his training/stretching routines but the few I have seen on you-tube seem pretty standard in a sporting context.
Indeed, some of the stretches he does on court are unbelievable. It’s not just the stretches achieved, it’s his ability to recover from the stretch and be in position for the next shot………….
Far out…………..
But when he does tweak a muscle or strain a tendon we hear about it endlessly.
And he was handing out bagles and breadsticks at will in MC with a sore wrist.
This is what he had on his website on 22nd April:
“Fortunately, the situation with the injury is better than it first seemed. Doctors assured me that I will be ready for Madrid, then Rome and Roland Garros, just as it has been planned. However, I need to continue with the recovery process and full medical treatments. It means I will have to take a short break in order to recover as soon as possible,” Novak said on his website.
If his wrist is that bad, maybe he should take it up with the doctors who assured him that it was OK and nothing to worry about. There is some double talk going on.
you should refer to my earlier post:
vamosrafa says:
May 4, 2014 at 6:24 am
poor rafa lost to Rosol in wimbledon when he was visibly plagued by that knee issue. He took a break but how many dates did he give for his comeback after that? do you remember? RECALL. Playing Toronto, USO, Olympic games and then Uncle Toni talking about his comeback in davis cup or WTF at the end of the year… Then Poor rafa announced Abu Dhabi, could not be there..then Aus open, could not be there (primary reason cited was that stupid stomach virus)…..
SO you see, injuries are extremely difficult to deal with in so many diff ways..the biggest trouble they evoke is arguably the uncertainty they surround the player with…you just cannot be fully certain as to when your body will be perfect… doctors can advise but often they don’t have perfect knowledge about rafa exactly the body will respond!
Novak’s injury obviously does NOT seem to be as serious as rafa’s knee injury of 2012 but what has been going on regarding his wrist injury is COMPLETELY NORMAL in my view at least!
Some people are far too sensitive when it comes to Djokovic.
Some people are far too sensitive about other Rafa fans who are fair enough to say good things about other players and respect their game and ability.
its not about being sensitive of Djokovic or Federer or someone else. Its being respectful of rafa’s top rivals, for who rafa has ENORMOUS respect. I just try to do what my man , Rafa nadal parera , does!
Besides, I don’t remember who said exactly what but I remember when novak lost to federer in Rome, there were people here constantly downplaying the extent of his injury and saying it is nothing and that novak will be back fully fit in madrid…now saying all that right after a match where a player was visibly ailing, i dont know how that is not accusing him of faking an injury !!
Nadline, what you are trying to imply regarding novak delivering bagels and breadsticks does not make any sense at all. Just open up your mind a little and you will figure that out. We are most focused on rafa so lets take an example from his career. Rafa delivered a bread stick and croissant to montanes in Rio and then almost lost to anjudar? paradoxical? not really because we KNOW what poor rafa was going through….injuries can be very complicated and we know that ! rafa’s back was the culprit back then… Or, consider rafa’s performance against Hewitt in R3 of RG. I remember everyone was saying after that match that rafa is playing sublime tennis as he swept hewitt aside but what happened in the next match was so upsetting. Nobody knew the extent of rafa’s suffering before he bowed out fighting to Soderling !!
Likewise, we can find several other examples.
when novak lost to fed in MONTECARLO**** -line 5
vamosrafa,
I agree with the examples you have stated regarding Rafa’s difficulties because he was injured. We don’t always know the full extent of an injury. Sometimes a player feels that they can play through it.
I really appreciated the example you brought up about the 2009 RG. I had not seen Rafa play since I/W that year. I heard about the loss to Fed in the Madrid final. But when I saw him play Hewitt, although he beat him in routine fashion, I remember saying to myself that Rafa was going to have to play a lot better if he was going to win RG. I sensed something wasn’t right with him, with his movement. But he was good enough to get past a Hewitt who couldn’t trouble him. Suffice to say that it all caught up to him in that fourth round match against Sod. That’s when it became obvious that Rafa’s movement was impaired by the knee tendinitis.
It’s worth keeping in mind that there are still some who insist that Rafa withdrew from the 2009 Wimbledon out of a fear that he couldn’t win and that he wasn’t injured. I remember reading that on tennis-x, coming from Sean Randall. Many of the rabid Fed fans and just plain haters jumped on that bandwagon and continue to say it to this day.
Rafa fans know full well about the cheap shots thrown at him about not really being injured. I also remember Ben Pronin, a blogger on tennis-x, coming up the theory last year that Rafa wasn’t injured when he was out for seven months. This guy said that Rafa took off to work on his hard court game! Unbelievable! I confronted him and reminded him that Rafa had to withdraw from the Olympics, when he was going to carry his country’s flag. I told him just how absurd his theory was and that it made no sense. But it didn’t stop him from continuing to say it. We don’t need to lower ourselves to their level.
I agree that djokovic and Federer have been lucky with regards to Injuries and poor rafa has been very unlucky 🙁
Djokovic’s physique, weight distribution and flexiblity allow him to pull off those absurd lunges time and time again, they are incredible.
Rafa’s poor luck, his playing style, and body, have all brought more injuries to him. The timing of injuries is something so darn unlucky with rafa….I wish he never gets any injury from now on
MUTUA MADRID OPEN 2014
DJOKOVIC WITHDRAWS FROM MADRID
Madrid, Spain
by ATP Staff | 04.05.2014
http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2014/05/19/Madrid-Sunday-Djokovic-Withdraws.aspx
^^They should re-do the draw. This is the same stuff we saw with Delpo, was it both Indian Wells and Miami, where he withdrew after the draw had been done?
From the ATP article:
“World No. 2 Novak Djokovic has been forced to withdraw from the Mutua Madrid Open, having suffered a recurrence of the right arm injury that afflicted him three weeks ago in Monte-Carlo.”
I thought it was his wrist that was giving him trouble………
He declared after the MC SF that his arm had been very painful when serving (he still managed 65% 1st serves for the whole match) and at changeovers he could be seen holding his arm with his other hand.
I suppose the wrist is part of the arm. He says:
“Now I will take some time to recover and heal my injury, hoping I will be ready for Rome. I look forward to returning to Madrid next year.”
That’s a bit optimistic,considering Rome starts next week. He should in time so that a more balanced draw can be made.
^^My wrist is connected to my shoulder! (joke)…….
Now Wawa has a nice ride all the way to the final. Who’s gonna stop him, Ferru? I think it’s safe to say Wawa owns Ferru now. Kei? I doubt his stamina over 2 tournaments in a row.Raonic? Mehh. The Fog? *doing the laughings*
PseudoRicky HAS to pick Wawa for sure………….