Novak Djokovic

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  1. LOL, let’s play another round of “Fed?…Or @PseudoFed”…

    Carole Bouchard Retweeted
    LetsTalkTennis ‏@letstalktennis1 3h3 hours ago
    Federer on Djokovic: “It’s great for tennis. It’s world class and really rare. He did it without any luck, it’s wonderful how he did it.”

    #UnlikeMPsSavedUSO

  2. Pete Sampras spoke about incredible Novak Djokovic’s dominance in a different way. ‘Now he is at his peak – Sampras said – He has been playing THE BEST TENNIS OF ALL TIME for two or three years. It’s amazing what he did against Roger, he beat him at the US Open and twice at Wimbledon. He reaches the final in every tournament he plays. His numbers are impressive as well as his consistency.’

  3. Wow what a hateful piece from the federazzi media. Such fandom and jealousy knows no bounds.

    “No, we believe in Federer. Look at the two men move. Djokovic almost minces back to his chair. Federer prowls. It is another problem for Hillary. Hubby Bill could move mountains with his gentle tread. Billbo was absurdly charismatic in his prime, but Hillary wobbles about like a made-up doll.

    There is maybe hope for Nole and Hillary. There are people out there who say we can learn how to be charismatic. Olivia Fox Cabane, who charges firms like Google more than a $100,000 a year for her services, says, “It’s all about learning to play chemist with your brain. If you’re able to flood your body with oxytocin [the love hormone] whenever you want, your body language will be transformed. People will want to be near you.”

    REUTERS
    As the Washington Post said, ‘Everybody loves Roger Federer…Novak Djokovic…Not so much.’
    OPINION: Novak Djokovic and Hillary Clinton both have scary eyes. There is something alien about those big round peepers that look over you as if scanning the sky for flying saucers. There is no love, no recognition, no joy, no CHARISMA. It is why Nole and Hillary will never be adored by the public like Roger Federer and Barack Obama.

    How can Djokovic ever claim to be the greatest if he doesn’t have the love? He knows it and it bothers him. He once said to my friend Matthew Syed, ex-Commonwealth ping-pong champion and now a superb sports writer for The Times, “I’m not sure what I have to do to be popular.”

    How many of us have said the same thing. How many kids have cried out from the schoolyard or adults from the office party, “Why don’t people like me?”

    SHANNON STAPLETON/ REUTERS
    Hubby Bill could move mountains with his gentle tread but Hillary wobbles about like a made-up doll.
    And it’s because they don’t have that “it” thing. They don’t feel our pain. They don’t look people in the eye and listen as if that person is the most important in the room. They don’t have the smile and the wit and the empathy and the easy walk. They don’t have CHARISMA.

    The word comes from the Greek meaning gift. It comes from an olden time of magic. A.N. Wilson writes at the start of his biography of C.S. Lewis; “The world has changed more radically in the last hundred years than in any previous era of history. Old values and certainties have been destroyed; religions have collapsed. In such a world, a voice which appears to come from the old world and to speak with the old sureness will have an obvious appeal.”

    Aslan in the Narnia books embodies the old magic of the old world. Aslan’s charisma is part of the reason why Federer is so loved and Djokovic never will be. Federer is the wardrobe that takes us through the fur coats into the old world. He loves to play on the grass of Wimbledon where he may yet win one more title in a few weeks’ time. We can imagine him with a wooden racquet in hand.

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    REUTERS
    Serbia’s Novak Djokovic once said to my friend Matthew Syed of The Times, ‘I’m not sure what I have to do to be popular.’
    Federer even seems to be walking backward through time as his career progresses. As a young man he used to stay planted on the baseline. Federer now rushes the net and we love him for it. He is bringing us the old magic.

    He even says, “I enjoy coming to the net like back in the day.”

    Nothing about Djokovic is like “back in the day”. Why would it be? His childhood was spent in a country ravaged by war. His whole soul screams for progress. And so Djokovic plays tennis to survive. He plays tennis to eat. There is no risk reward. He wouldn’t try to drive a green that was 300 yards away with a lake on one side. Djokovic would play an iron to a precise spot in the fairway and then hit a wedge to half a metre.

    Nick Bollettieri, the man who rolled out Andre Agassi and Maria Sharapova from the production line, calls Djokovic “the most complete of all time”, but then Bolletieri owns a factory. We don’t have to believe in his industrial diktat.

    No, we believe in Federer. Look at the two men move. Djokovic almost minces back to his chair. Federer prowls. It is another problem for Hillary. Hubby Bill could move mountains with his gentle tread. Billbo was absurdly charismatic in his prime, but Hillary wobbles about like a made-up doll.

    There is maybe hope for Nole and Hillary. There are people out there who say we can learn how to be charismatic. Olivia Fox Cabane, who charges firms like Google more than a $100,000 a year for her services, says, “It’s all about learning to play chemist with your brain. If you’re able to flood your body with oxytocin [the love hormone] whenever you want, your body language will be transformed. People will want to be near you.”

    Watch Bill Clinton work a room in his prime. He steps off the stage towards his audience. He looks the questioner in the eye and stays with them. His intonation moves down towards the end of sentences, which is one reason why Aussies can never have charisma.

    Now watch the press conferences of Federer and Djokovic at the Australian Open. Federer’s voice is lower. He looks at the questioner. He says “in my opinion” in a way that suggests yours may be just as valuable. In contrast, Djokovic’s eyes are flitting all over the place. His pitch is higher. There is no comfort in his presence, no connection.

    And it is reflected in the way the two men play. Djokovic, surrounded by a Teutonic crowd of men in red tracksuits, wears down his opponent with mechanical efficiency. His baseline length is the best in the industry. His two-handed backhand doesn’t break down. And then there once was that endless ball bouncing, drumming away in your brain.

    Federer, of course, plays the most beautiful game as befits man who is idolised by Anna Wintour, the editor of Vogue. The one-handed backhand is again a remembrance of things past. That fluid service action and wristy forehand are like flowing water.

    http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/80930802/No-recognition-no-joy-no-charisma-with-Novak-Djokovic-and-Hillary-Clinton

    • The same thing was said of Pete Sampras himself. But heck, even though their fundamental gamestyles were different, they both had powerful, athletic, efficient games and the fun was in watching them play. Sure, Novak brings more to the table, but I’m really more interested in what he offers on court.

    • Correction: Laver has the current open era record at 31 consecutive slam match wins.

      Nole can tie this record if he wins his 3rd round match against the winner of Querrey/Bellucci. Querrey up a set and a break with play suspended for today.

  4. Novak Djokovic became just the third man in tennis history to hold all four of the major titles at the same time by claiming his first career title at Roland Garros. He’s halfway to a calendar year Grand Slam and is the first man to hold both the Australian and French Open titles coming into Wimbledon since Jim Courier in 1992. Only two men have ever won the calendar year Grand Slam: Don Budge in 1938 and Rod Laver in 1962 and ‘69.

    Djokovic is the defending champion at Wimbledon for the second year and is the overwhelming favorite to make it three titles in a row. He’s defeated seven-time Wimbledon champ Roger Federer in the last two finals, but Federer is coming off multiple injuries and is not at his best coming into the tournament. Andy Murray could be another obstacle for Djokovic.

    Murray has solidified his position as the No. 2 player in the world behind Djokovic. It’s kind of amazing that in their 34 head-to-head meetings they’ve only played once on grass, at the 2013 Wimbledon final, which was won by Murray. Djokovic leads their overall series 24 to 10. Also interesting to note that Andy Murray has the fourth best career grass court record in the Open Era behind only Federer, John McEnroe and Bjorn Borg—and ahead of Pete Sampras. Murray’s toughest opponents at Wimbledon have been Rafael Nadal (who isn’t playing this year due to a wrist injury), and Federer. Could we have our third straight major final in 2016 featuring Djokovic and Murray?

    http://www.si.com/tennis/2016/06/29/daily-data-viz-novak-djokovic-calendar-grand-slam-wimbledon

      • Yeah Andy is up 2-0 on grass. More tellingly, he’s never lost a set on grass to Novak. I rate the current Djokovic much higher than the version that played in 2013, but then again Murray has also improved significantly at least on clay. I wonder how that might translate to grass.

  5. Hawkeye,

    Thanks for posting this info. Novak is building quite a list of his own records.

    Honestly, I decided to skip reading that hateful piece on Novak. I really don’t even like to be exposed to that kind of toxicity. About anyone!

  6. The comments here are hilarious. I thought the piece on Fed, Bill, Hillary and Djokovic was quite insightful. But biased posters found it toxic? I admire Hillary, don’t much care for Fed and have always felt bad that Hillary is unloved. Djokovic looks scary so his lack of appeal is not unexpected. I think his devoted fans, at least those who post in tennis forums, are mostly Serbians.
    But I can sense the magnetism of Federer and Bill. I suppose it is charisma. Or star quality. Hillary lacks it. But she is never obnoxious like Nole has been in the humping the car roof incident or in the infamous skit with Troicki. Rafa too has charisma in abundance and of course I love his genuine humility and candor. Muzz is witty in an understated way and he is candid too. But Djokovic’s humor is jarring. Fortunately he now focuses more on tennis and not on playing the buffoon. Who knows posterity may yet love him.

    • Yes, being involved in scandals, murder and dirty politics is far more obnoxious than humping a car roof under the influence of alcohol (oh wait, wasn’t that Marian Vajda?).

      I’m not a huge of Djokovic’s brand of humour or his attempts at pleasing the mainstream since he became an established great, although I like the impressions he used to do.

      Having said that, Djokovic is the quintessential middle finger to the subtly racist media that has chosen to ignore what he has accomplished and continues to do so. And he is also one of the most complete players I have ever seen. And I’m Sri Lankan.

      • Novak Djokovic ‘abnoxious’?! Such a bad word to use. It is people like Mary who intentionally bring bad name to people. I am not a fan of Djokovic but why the hell do I have to call him obnoxious or toxic when he is NOT. He is the most gracious loser out there, he has matured so much in the last 5 years or so and has a lot of respect for the game.

        Yes, his is not as charismatic as Nadal or Federer and his attempts are getting more popular with the crowd are sometimes desperate but I kind of get that too because in spite of winning so much and breaking records, he is not loved that much. I think he got off to a bad start in his career and was immature. However, why keep judging someone based on the mistakes they made early in their career when he has actually been a good sportsman for the last 5 years now.You DON’T have to be his fan and neither do I but it is just not nice to do sort of needless character assassination. Comparing a good sportsman to HILARY CLINTON?!!! WTH!! LOL

        Anyway, he is a video of that ‘humping on the car roof’ incident.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g43cWPNBMU0

        Clearly, it is Marian Vajda who is doing it and Djokovic is standing on the side celebrating!! This lie was written so many times here that I started thinking it actually was Djokovic!

        P.s, he beat Rafa for the first time ever on clay and had every right to celebrate off the court. He was quite respectful on the court and what someone does off the court is none of our business actually.

        Federer admitted to have laughed for 10 minutes when Nadal lost to Rosol!

        Nadal is the only one who is very humble by nature. He is so genuine that can’t even imagine him making fun of fed/novak like that even when sitting in his living room in Mollorca.

        • Nah, that skit about pointing the gun at Djoko’s head…..was simply too much! As a Rafa fan, I cant accept that! I doubt that’s showing any respect for Rafa.

          Djoko now is more well behaved, as he thinks he’s no.1 now and so must set good example (I remember when he was younger, he did all sorts of funny skits or acts just to get recognition). And, was it his PR manager, who said something like Djoko is not going to endorse products like poker or alcoholic drinks? Was that pinpointing at Rafa (pokerstar, Burgundy) or even Fed ( Moet champagne)? I mean, must they be so tactless and thinking the Djoko has to occupy a higher moral ground (than Fedal)? I know Djoko may be guided by his own belief, but his PR manager should be more tactful.

          • I do not understand why an athlete is obliged to set a good example. Never mind that this example itself is purely subjective, but why do people rely on athletes as role models for life? This concept does not add up.

            • Exactly Mikkers! So why that PR guy got to mention that Djoko is not going to endorse products like poker or alcoholic drinks? That’s my question too. They are not obliged to set any example. Like I said, its more projecting a healthy image for both the player and the sport.

        • vr,

          Bravo! I second your sentiments and could not have said it better!

          I see no reason to compare Hillary Clinton or any other political figure to a tennis player or any sportsperson! Absurd!

          Novak has matured quite a bit in the last few years. I give him credit for working hard to be the best player he can be. I am also proud as a Rafa fan, that he has praised Novak and acknowledged his achievements. It takes a lot of grace, class and inner confidence to give credit to a fellow player.

          I do think that Novak realizes he is not as popular as Fed and Rafa. He dies try too hard and it doesn’t always work, but I understand why he does it.

        • Oh vr and nny, you sound so funny attacking Rafa fans viciously but shuddering when Djokovic is called “obnoxious” ? Ha ha ha! What a farce! Pathetic!!

      • Mikkers,

        I do hope that you are not referring to Hillary Clinton in your reference to murders, scandals and dirty politics. That would be highly offensive to me.

        I have already made my position clear that there is no reason to compare political figures to sports players. Leave politics out of it!

        I have made my feelings known regarding Novak. I am not a fan, but respect his efforts to improve his game in recent years. He has worked hard and his recent results are proof that it has paid off for him.

        • Ah native and hawkeye disagree! Hawkeye says “well said” to mikkers, native declares what mikkers said is “highly offensive”!!!
          hawkeye’s remarks not greeted with the usual ” you are cracking me up” or “you are killing me”? Trouble in troll paradise, methinks.

        • I didn’t mean to offend anyone with that remark, but yes I directed it towards Clinton, whose actions in the past I have no respect for. But you’re right, it is best not to drage politics into sport.

  7. I personally didnt like the pokerstar endorsement Rafa had earlier on, but Rafa wasnt restricted by any religious belief; and he believed poker was just a game, not gambling as long as one wont get obsessive over it.

    I do think when one wants to gamble, there are hundred and one things a person could do, not just poker. However, for the sake of image for Rafa and for tennis, I’m glad Rafa is off pokerstar now.

  8. A risky treatment?

    MailOnline July 9 2016: ¤¤ Investigation into Melbourne oxygen therapy clinic used by Novak Djokovic during Australian Open after a man dies during a treatment.
    A man died while inside a hyperbaric chamber at an oxygen therapy clinic.
    Hypermed is run by deregistered Melbourne chiropractor Malcolm Hooper.
    World No. 1 tennis player Novak Djokovic was treated at the clinic this year. ¤¤
    Read more:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3681879/Investigation-Melbourne-oxygen-therapy-clinic-used-Novak-Djokovic-Australian-Open-man-dies-treatment.html#ixzz4DvEpZxKt

  9. “I am very sad to announce that I won’t be able to play this year in Cincinnati.

    “I have a recurring injury that has taken its toll on my body due to a very busy and active schedule this year.

    “I have played many matches and I have to take some rest in order to heal.”

    • Yes, Novak did not say exactly what the injury is in his statement. But he did say he would see everyone in New York, so he’s going to be at the USO.

  10. Left wrist injury it is…players always tell the nature of injury when they pull out. He has not shared any details but is the left wrist injury.

    Yes he had shoulder issues too…he’s plaeyd a lot so his body is not responding well this year…remember he’ll be 30 next year!

      • You made up a story that there is an opinion that tournament organizers made up a story.

        Just like you made up a story that Rafa’s wrist was ok a few months back.

    • There is nothing that Nole said in any of his publicized statements to the effect that he pulled out of Cincy because of a recurring wrist injury.

      You claim that media makes up stories about Fed and Rafa, so why can’t they make up stories about specific details on Nole’s withdrawal?

      You need to apply another layer of tinfoil.

      • Well when it was first posted here on novak’s fan page, there was an eye roll emoticon posted at the end.

        Augusta’s post @ 4:17 pm above. So why the rude eye roll emoticon when Novak actually does have an injury?

        I would not want to see anyone posting an eye roll emoticon when Rafa pulled out of Wimbledon because of his wrist injury.

        • It’s called being a hypocrite nny.

          Apparently, it is ok for Rafa to withdraw from tournaments due to injury after a loss but not for anybody else.

        • Nativenewyorker AUGUST 10, 2016 AT 8:14 PM,
          .
          What ?! 🙄
          1) I posted the Cincinnati tournament official announcement about Djoko’s withdrawal AT 4:17 PM! It says: ‘due to recurring left wrist injury’.
          2) I have never read/heard that Djoko has had any LEFT wrist injuries. That’s why I’m surprised (I’m rolling my eyes) that he has withdrawn due to ‘RECURRING left wrist injury’. It’s written also on the tournament website I posted AT 5:14 PM.
          .
          It’s not the first time you have totally misconstrued comments of other posters!
          P.S. Please keep Rafa out of this!

          • “It’s difficult to believe the tournament organizers made up story about Djoko’s wrist injury (on their homepage).”

            Yet your eyeroll combined with your “explanation” shows that’s just what you thought.

          • Augusta,

            I did not misconstrue anything! You always do this! You lecture others about rules and not posting things twice all the time!

            On some forums, rolling eye emoticons are grounds for disciplinary action. It doesn’t matter if you ever knew or heard about any recurring wrist injury with Novak! Why should you assume that you know everything about his health? You are not hug fan.

            Also, one last time I will remind you that you do not dictate what I can say on this forum. You are violating the spirit of this forum with your self-indulgent orders that I not bring Rafa into this! It’s called making a point!

            I would be highly offended if anyone presumed to mock or doubt any of Rafa’s injuries. In fact, we got into a very heated discussion not too long ago on the Rafa fan page with a Fed fan who was questioning Rafa withdrawing from the 2009 Wimbledon. I joined in that discussion and defended the legitimacy of Rafa’s injury at the time.

            There is no reason for you to question Novak withdrawing from Cindy with a wrist injury. I try to give the benefit of the doubt to the players and take them at their word. I give them the respect that I would want everyone to give to Rafa!

            This is not complicated!

            • Nativenewyorker AUGUST 10, 2016 AT 10:10 PM,

              OMG! You continue misconstruing my comment posted on AUGUST 10, 2016 AT 4:17 PM even after I explained it to you!

              And YOU do not dictate what I can say on this forum!

              Leave Rafa out of it!

              End of.

            • Nope. you said you can’t see how they made up a story while at the same time showing eyeroll at said statement.

              You can’t even be consistent with your own posts let alone follow your own twisted rules you set for everybody else.

              Rafa believes nole as do Rafa’s real fans.

  11. Augusta,

    I will continue to speak about Rafa and any other player if I so choose.

    You are not the moderator of this forum and have no right to tell me what I can say. Why do you care if I bring up Rafa? Why the hysteria and overreaction when I bring him up?

    You are overstepping your place as a poster on this forum. You presume to take offense when I speak about Rafa to bring home the point that ALL players should be taken at their word when it comes to withdrawing from a tournament due to injury. That includes Novak and everyone else!

    Your rolling eye emoticon was unnecessary and rude. You cone on her to gloat whenever Novak loses and that is the extent of your attempt to contribute anything related to an actual tennis discussion. If that is what you need to do to feel better, then so be it.

    You can’t come back and say that you have a right to say what you want. You do not have the right to tell me not to bring up Rafa. You are trying to make it seem as though I am doing something wrong by mentioning his name. You know perfectly what I am saying. You would be screaming all over the place if anyone dared to question the legitimacy of Rafa’s injuries. But for some bizarre reason, you think it’s fine to question novak’s injuries with a rolling eye emoticon. Surprise would be indicated by a different emoticon. The rolling eye emoticon is meant in sarcasm and derision!

    Now I get to say enough of this! It would be a waste of time to discuss this any further with someone who is deliberately non-responsive.

    • Nativenewyorker AUGUST 10, 2016 AT 11:30 PM,

      You, also, are not moderator of this forum and have no right to tell me what I can say!

      • The Real Rafans have no idea what they are saying, let alone have any idea of what Gussie is saying!!! Hilarious!!! What a tangled web they weave when they confuse themselves with lies!!!

        • Where did you get this information? You should focus on yourself, because you have been put in moderation.

          That’s the problem. You are too busy trying to point fingers at others, while you disregard the rules of this site.

          • NNY AT 7:43 PM says:
            1)”Where did you get this information?”
            2)”You should focus on yourself”
            ===
            .
            1) I read comments, sometimes.
            2) You and hawk should also focus on yourself. My comment was Reply to hawk’s comment AT 2:44AM written about ME and addressed to YOU.

  12. What the heck is BB up to ! LOL

    “He has now admitted to be carrying a wrist strain at Wimbledon,” Becker wrote Sunday. “He was unwilling to bring it up since he was beaten fair and square there, but the wrist did trouble him there and is still a problem for him. However, he is the favorite and the defending champion so he is training hard to protect his silverware.”

    What Djokovic said :

    “It happened actually in Rio, just few days before the start of the tournament,” Djokovic said Friday. “I did experience this for the first time in my career. Never had this particular wrist injury before. I played against Del Potro, who unfortunately was absent from the tour for the wrist injury himself.”

      • Nadline is off by several months and titles including the French Open. For meldonium to be at an effective level (not just trace amounts), it has to be taken recently and regularly.

        But she knows this. She’s just laying bait.

        • agreed vr. ‘some people are saying’ is straight out of the donald trump playbook.
          as is the linking of east-europeans with meldonium with zero evidence.

          • Yeah…and it is comments like these take encourage the hate brigade on the other side to post disgusting allegations about Rafa being a doper bla bla bla. It is because of hater fans of these players that we get to see such pollution.

            Anyone who has played a sport enthusiastically EVEN AT university level would be able to appreciate how much effort these guys put in. It looks all glamour and fame and money sometimes but the sacrifices these players make, which make them GOATs are beyond the knowledge of most of us here.
            It is shameful to question ANY athlete’s dedication and hard work when you don’t have evidence.

            • totally agree vr. it is the worst kind of ‘rafa fans’ ( i put this deliberately in inverted commas because i think these so called loyalists are actually most involved with themselves not rafa hence the narcissism of their posts) coming up with these base and vile rumours which empowers and gives pseudo-legitimacy to those who call rafa a doper. they are mirrors of each other.

            • Djoko’s rescuers here are desperately trying to divert attention away from the real issue (the Djoko team ) to one poster (nadline). 😏

            • 1. I posted that info on the first place.
              2. Yeah, the hate-spewing poster you mean. Reacting so much to ‘allegations’ against Rafa and going after Roselyne Bachelot (rightly so) BUT then hurling similar accusations against another player! LOL LOL

    • I was quoting from a comment in the DM and I have read similar comments all over the net.

      Calto7, UK, United Kingdom, 1 day ago

      “More like the Lance Armstrong of tennis. Ever since Sharapova was caught, all of a sudden Djokovic is no longer Superman….”

      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3765028/Novak-Djokovic-s-glum-looking-wife-Jelena-returns-watch-Open-leaves-early-private-issues-led-tennis-star-crashing-Wimbledon-Olympics.html#ixzz4Iw9T6J2P
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      • Another poster here educated by The Daily Mail. No coincidence.

        Spewing someone else’s garbage is still garbage.

        All Djokovic has done since Sharapova was caught was win Australia, Indian Wells, Miami, Madrid, Roland Garros and Toronto.

        Idiotic comment from an idiot. The Daily Mail I mean of course.

        • quoting from the low life on the daily heil!!! hahaha
          augusta and nadline love the british hate spewing tabloids and their awful readers..

  13. Meanwhile, Rafa continues to shower respect for his rivals (Federer this time):

    ´I never saw nobody with all the shots that Roger has. Big serve, big forehand, unbelievable movements, the slice, backhand. Yeah, it´s true, no? And at the same time with unbelievable elegance, no? So I think what Roger has done for the game during all these years, and what he’s gonna keep doing for the next couple of years, is something very important for our sport. He helps the game a lot by taking it to another level in terms of everything. So just I feel very happy to be part of the same era.´

    http://www.tennisworldusa.org/news/news/Rafael_Nadal/35666/rafael-nadal-i-ve-never-seen-anybody-with-federer-s-shots-he-has-an-incredible-elegance-/

        • vr, take my advice and stick to tennis. When you are trolling you do not even know which page a post should be on
          #vrBlindedByHateLosesAnalyticBrainReplacedByBile

          • Blinded by what hate? post an example here of a single hate post from me. AS usual, you will chicken away. haha

            And, it was intentionally posted here as it was relevant to the my post before that one.

            Applying a little common sense would have helped. Try it next time.

    • Rafa’s words about Fed and what he has done for the game, are a testament to his respect for his fellow players. He appreciates the contribution that Fed had made to this sport. You will never hear Rafa dissing his rivals!

      Way to go Rafa!

    • I came on here to catch up on the discussion and it’s disappointing to see that there are the same old aspersions being cast on novak’s injury issue.

      I agree with vr and Amy when it comes to respecting the hard work and effort that these players put into becoming the best they can be.

      They deserve respect for that.

        • No, it’s called having an opinion! I don’t think it is appropriate to bring up the ban on meldonium in relation to Novak. It’s pathetic to even imply that he won RG and completed the career slam and four slams in a row, because of any drug.

            • By the way has anybody else noticed that “amy” is singularly devoid of humor? A sad and pathetic specimen who has revved up two guys vr and hawkeye by showering excessive praise on them?
              #goldenduoBrilliantAnalystWimbledonGrassExpertShould beware of Greeks bearing praise
              #amy’s “golden duo” marionettes

            • I think it’s been some time since Mary W “revved up” anyone (nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more).

            • Troll Instigator Contest:

              Mary: 10
              Augusta08: 1

              (If I was counting the unprovoked insults directed at me since yesterday, Augusta would be much closer to Mary but it is clear these two are the instigators.)

              Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 3:13 PM
              By the way has anybody else noticed that “amy” is singularly devoid of humor? A sad and pathetic specimen who has revved up two guys vr and hawkeye by showering excessive praise on them?…

              Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 2:49 PM
              #Echo

              Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 3:26 PM
              So, native, why should Rafa’s opinion on Fed be on a novak page?
              #ConfusedTrollLogic

              Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 3:16 PM
              vr, take my advice and stick to tennis. When you are trolling you do not even know which page a post should be on
              #vrBlindedByHateLosesAnalyticBrainReplacedByBile

              Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 2:58 PM
              #BrazenFacedDeuceBashingLoyals
              #TrollGangRevvedByADeuce

              augusta08 AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 2:38 PM
              You shouldn’t speculate if you have less information than that fan had.

              Mary W AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 3:09 PM
              deuce upbraids augusta for saying something before?
              #Hilarious!
              #TrollGangOwnsPatentOnBrokenRecords

              Mary W AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 2:39 PM
              #deuceInAggressiveTrollMode
              #HerFellowTrollsInAweOfHerScam
              #HasdeuceBeenMadePresidentOfTrollNation

              Mary W AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 2:17 PM
              The point which you trolls avoid is that no one knows whether it is Djok’s wrist or elbow or shoulder or whether it is his LEFT or his RIGHT!!!

              Mary W AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 1:52 PM
              native doesn’t watch matches so she doesn’t know about Jerzy’s drop shots and his movement.

              Mary W AUGUST 29, 2016 AT 2:25 PM
              #why holier- than -thou native no take him to task?
              #hypocrisy is their middle name ( extract from the song of the trolls)

              Mary W AUGUST 29, 2016 AT 3:41 PM
              Wow!! deuce still asking her “innocent” questions!!!

            • Mary W says:
              By the way has anybody else noticed that “amy” is singularly devoid of humor?

              holdserve, please provide a single example of your hilarity. I have yet to see any such evidence.

  14. Troll Instigator Contest:

    Correction:

    Mary: 11
    Augusta08: 1

    (If I was counting the unprovoked insults directed at me since yesterday, Augusta would be much closer to Mary but it is clear these two are the instigators.)

    Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 3:13 PM
    By the way has anybody else noticed that “amy” is singularly devoid of humor? A sad and pathetic specimen who has revved up two guys vr and hawkeye by showering excessive praise on them?…

    Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 2:49 PM
    #Echo

    Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 3:26 PM
    So, native, why should Rafa’s opinion on Fed be on a novak page?
    #ConfusedTrollLogic

    Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 3:16 PM
    vr, take my advice and stick to tennis. When you are trolling you do not even know which page a post should be on
    #vrBlindedByHateLosesAnalyticBrainReplacedByBile

    Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 2:58 PM
    #BrazenFacedDeuceBashingLoyals
    #TrollGangRevvedByADeuce

    augusta08 AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 2:38 PM
    You shouldn’t speculate if you have less information than that fan had.

    Mary W AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 3:09 PM
    deuce upbraids augusta for saying something before?
    #Hilarious!
    #TrollGangOwnsPatentOnBrokenRecords

    Mary W AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 2:39 PM
    #deuceInAggressiveTrollMode
    #HerFellowTrollsInAweOfHerScam
    #HasdeuceBeenMadePresidentOfTrollNation

    Mary W AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 2:17 PM
    The point which you trolls avoid is that no one knows whether it is Djok’s wrist or elbow or shoulder or whether it is his LEFT or his RIGHT!!!

    Mary W AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 1:52 PM
    native doesn’t watch matches so she doesn’t know about Jerzy’s drop shots and his movement.

    Mary W AUGUST 29, 2016 AT 2:25 PM
    #why holier- than -thou native no take him to task?
    #hypocrisy is their middle name ( extract from the song of the trolls)

    Mary W AUGUST 29, 2016 AT 3:41 PM
    Wow!! deuce still asking her “innocent” questions!!!

  15. vr,

    This is the second time that Mary has calmed your brain a “bile duct”. There was an earlier comment posted by her. If that isn’t trolling, then I don’t know what is!

    I don’t see anyone else using such vulgar language on this site!

    If we stay off the Novak page, she will just go wherever we go on another thread and start spamming the site!

    So the bait us put out nadline, who makes an allegation against Novak and then Mary comes in to attack all of us!

  16. Troll Instigator Contest:

    Correction:

    Mary W: 11
    nadline10: 2
    Augusta08: 1

    (If I was counting the unprovoked insults directed at me since yesterday, Augusta would be much closer to Mary but it is clear these two are the instigators.)

    Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 3:13 PM
    By the way has anybody else noticed that “amy” is singularly devoid of humor? A sad and pathetic specimen who has revved up two guys vr and hawkeye by showering excessive praise on them?…

    Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 2:49 PM
    #Echo

    Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 3:26 PM
    So, native, why should Rafa’s opinion on Fed be on a novak page?
    #ConfusedTrollLogic

    Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 3:16 PM
    vr, take my advice and stick to tennis. When you are trolling you do not even know which page a post should be on
    #vrBlindedByHateLosesAnalyticBrainReplacedByBile

    Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 2:58 PM
    #BrazenFacedDeuceBashingLoyals
    #TrollGangRevvedByADeuce

    nadline10 AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 12:08 PM
    If Djoko and his coach are saying different things about his form one of them is not telling the truth or both of them aren’t. Call a spade a spade.

    nadline10 AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 8:49 AM
    Someone said it’s no coincidence that Djoko started losing after meldonium was banned. Just saying.

    augusta08 AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 2:38 PM
    You shouldn’t speculate if you have less information than that fan had.

    Mary W AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 3:09 PM
    deuce upbraids augusta for saying something before?
    #Hilarious!
    #TrollGangOwnsPatentOnBrokenRecords

    Mary W AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 2:39 PM
    #deuceInAggressiveTrollMode
    #HerFellowTrollsInAweOfHerScam
    #HasdeuceBeenMadePresidentOfTrollNation

    Mary W AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 2:17 PM
    The point which you trolls avoid is that no one knows whether it is Djok’s wrist or elbow or shoulder or whether it is his LEFT or his RIGHT!!!

    Mary W AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 1:52 PM
    native doesn’t watch matches so she doesn’t know about Jerzy’s drop shots and his movement.

    Mary W AUGUST 29, 2016 AT 2:25 PM
    #why holier- than -thou native no take him to task?
    #hypocrisy is their middle name ( extract from the song of the trolls)

    Mary W AUGUST 29, 2016 AT 3:41 PM
    Wow!! deuce still asking her “innocent” questions!!!

      • As I mentioned, I’m not counting instigating troll posts directed at me, but the poster “augusta08” would be much closer to Mary W if I was.

          • BTW, I am now convinced Mary W is indeed holdserve and not RITB.

            RITB consistently spells humour with a ‘u’ (English spelling) and both Mary W and holdserve consistently use the American spelling “humor”. Combined with Mary W’s recent (deliberate?) reminder of her expert knowledge of fractals, it is now quite obvious.

            • hawks mary is american. she said so on tennis-x saying she was originally from georgia. did holdserve come from georgia?
              you can see it anyway as she posts so late at night compared to european time..

            • Hawkeye,

              So you have come to the same conclusion! I have thought this a while now! Holdserve was banned a few years ago. I don’t know if you remember it.

    • Hawkeye,

      What about including Augustus’s posts egging on Mary’s comments by saying – you are cracking me up, you are making me laugh!

      That is Augusta doing what she accused me of doing in response to some of your comments. That is also instigation and blatant hypocrisy when she does the exact same thing that she attacked me for doing!

      You should count those, too!

      • No, I am only counting first instagating posts. That is, I’m only counting the troll bait initially laid – a completely unprovoked post that is not simply reacting to a response to a trolling post.

        But if you feel I’ve missed one as defined, please provide the time of the post and I will review.

        Thanks for the feedback nny! 🙂

        • Hawkeye,

          Okay, I get it. I will leave it in your hands. The initial instigation was the comment about Novak and meldonium. That laid the bait for the next series of posts that you compiled with such accuracy.

          Thanks for your efforts to deal with what has become an untenable situation. The spamming nature of one post after another is very disruptive to tennis discussions. For those of us who come here genuinely wanting to participate in quality discussions about a sport that we love, I think we deserve to do that without fear of being harassed and personally attacked.
          😀

        • hawkeye and vr, please apologize to ritb immediately if you are convinced I am holdserve. You guys revved up by deuce viciously attacked ritb and drove her off this site. Your only excuse was that she was me.
          You have been calling me ritb all along and I was fine with that. Now you can call me holdserve and I am fine with that too.
          It doesn’t matter what my moniker was earlier as I am and have always been a Rafa fan.
          I have no problem with deuce changing her moniker to amy. Anyone can change their moniker. But she should post as a Muzz fan.
          Instead she pretends to a Rafa fan thus proving her malafide intentions ab initio. She has been attacking loyals and instigating her golden puppets + native to do so.
          I thought exposure as deuce would stop her. She was indeed scared and stayed away for a while anxiously waiting for the reactions of her troll mates. To her relief she finds they need her just as much as before and her big scam has elevated her in their eyes. Maybe they have made her President of troll nation.
          But the point is she has now returned emboldened as she no longer fears exposure and is brazen facedly trolling this site with doubled venom. She needs to be stopped.

            • this whole post or very large portions needs to go on the list hawks – don’t you think?!
              loonytoons….!!!

            • It would take up waaaay too much space Amy.

              I don’t want to subject everyone to have to scroll so much lol.

            • Yes, shades of scoretracker! Another infamous troll!

              Now you know why Cheryl Murray had to keep banning holdserve! There was no moderation option on TT! Holdserve used to accuse poor Ed of being a Murray fan masquerading as a Rafa fan! She couldn’t keep her nasty mouth shut and kept picking fights with people on TT! So she was always getting banned and then would try to get back on the site!

              As we all can see, nothing has changed!

            • So what about hawkeye and vr’s vicious attack on ritb? how do you spin that, trolls? I saw an ugly side of vr then and it really shocked me. On tennistalk he was a young man , passionate about Rafa and making brilliant analytical posts. suddenly I see him vicious and vile and pouncing on ritb who now even according to the trolls was an innocent bystander.
              native is making up stories
              Just curious: Do you actually believe all your fiction or is it only to deceive others?

              #native’s PresentsFigmentsOfSickImagination
              #trollLicense

            • “Just curious: Do you actually believe all your fiction or is it only to deceive others?”

              Says holdserve who claims to think Amy is deuce.

              Hahahahahahaha holdserve your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

              Two Iliads in a row! All hail holdserve. The new scoretracker!

            • hawkeye, you used to be witty once but now sadly you are boring. Maybe you are now a full time jester in troll terms and have completely lost your human wit ( or wits??).
              Facts:
              #amyIsDeuce
              #TrollTeamAbusedRITB
              #TrollTeamisAbusingAugusta,nadlineAndMe

            • Awwwww, you make Me so sad holdsewve.

              You huwt my feewings!!!!

              Love it love it love it!

              Hahahahahahahaha, Beautiful!

              (BTW you won the Contest hands down. Congratulations King Troll on TG. All hail the new Scoretracker!!!!)

            • holdserve, at least I used to be witty.

              Better to have been witty, than to have never been witty before.

              Stay broken My friend!

          • amy is a grandmother, native is possibly in Laver’s age group. hawkeye admitted he is more than 50. So they have lots of time hanging on their hands. I cannot possibly spare enough time to spar with the troll team.
            #AdvantageGeriatricTeam

            • LOL, I think you should look at both the quantity and length of your countless posts over the last two days holdserve/scoretracker.

              Actions speak louder than words LOL.

            • Oooohhh! In Laver’s age group! Whoa! Ageism! That’s all she’s got left! When you are losing it and scraping the bottom of the barrel, you go for the old age attack! We had that on TT, also! History repeating itself!

              It’s really not pretty when someone just totally loses it, now is it! Nothing left but to make up stories about people being so old!

              This from someone who doesn’t know any of us, yet keeps on making up stories about who we are fans of, who we are pretending to be fans of, what we think, who we are! Yikes! It’s scary, but funny at the same time!

              Mary/ holdserve blew a head gasket!
              😯

            • good lord. mary/holdserve/twenty16 is bonkers!! there is no other word for it.
              and what’s with the epic invented personal insults? her new insult for me is that i am old and a grandmother! apart from the offensive ageism of this how can she possibly know my age as i have never mentioned it. i am not even a mother let alone a grandmother. she says my knowledge of tennis proves i am old!! well vr knows more than anyone here and he is 28 (if i remember correctly)

            • and no i did not say i have read tennis-x for a long time. because i haven’t!!
              mary/holdserve/twenty16 lives in a post-factual world where she constantly makes bogus claims as if they were facts.

            • ha ha I enjoyed the conversation deuce had with herself on Jalep’s racket bracket. Both sounded exactly alike.
              amy-deuce named herself after a genius but she is slipping.
              #AmadeusTurningInHisGrave
              Also if hypothetically we assume amy and Margot are different people, then why would Margot love amy who is always bashing Muzz?
              #deuceTrippedUpHere
              #HappensWhenSomebodyTriesToBeTooSmart

        • amy has revealed that she is closely following tennis-x for a long time.
          She is clearly a poster there. Who? Obviously Margot.
          Now Margot seems sensible.Maybe because she is posting under her own name or because Sean allows only Fed or Djok fans to troll. So Margot’s creator unleashed deuce, 100% troll on tennistalk and now amy, 100% supertroll on tenngrand.
          I said amy has no sense of humor but no, I was wrong. She goes ha ha now and then and she found my fractal comic. Unfortunately these do not tickle human ribs, only troll ones, so I failed to recognize amy’s humor. I apologize.
          So the person who created Margot and amy, gave both a sense of humor.
          #Margot’s is droll, amy’s is troll
          #Hilarious

          • “I said amy has no sense of humor but no, I was wrong. ”

            Says holdserve who can’t produce a single example of being funny herself.

            Hahahahahahaha holdserve! Keep it up! You’re hypocrisy is KILLING Me!

            Three Iliads in a row! All hail holdserve. Scoretracker would be proud of your nonsensical rants!

          • Hawkeye,

            Mary is having a bit of a meltdown! Someone needs to chill out! She thinks I make up stories, yet she weaves a tale about deuce/Margot being Amy on tennis-x and now being here pretending to be a Rafa and Novak fan! LOL!

            All one has to do is check out the TT archives to substantiate holdserve’s record. She was the one who repeatedly attacked Ed for pretending to be a Rafa fan, while really being a Murray fan. Holdserve got herself in hot water for making these absurd accusations, which just happen to be verbatim the same things now being said about Amy! The pattern is clear.

            This seems to have unnerved Mary, who just needs to chill out and calm down. One cannot run and cannot hide from things said in the past on another forum,

            • You were right all along nny. I should have realized sooner but, as a longer time poster on TT, you figured it out right away.

            • Why don’t you produce proof from TT archives to substantiate your so-called facts? The burden of proof is always on the person who claims that something is true.
              Aha, got you!!!
              #NativeCannotProveHerLIes
              #DidMamaNoTellNativeFibbingIsBad?
              #Shame!!!

            • You claimed Amy has no sense of humo’r but to pass such judgement implies you have one yourself.

              Why don’t you produce proof from ANYWHERE to substantiate your so-called sense of humo’r? The burden of proof is always on the person who claims that something is true.
              Aha, got you FIRST!!!

              #MaryWisTheNewHoldserveIsTheNewScoretracker
              #DidMamaNoHugBabyHoldserve
              #Epic

            • hawkeye I would like to observe the dining habits of trolls
              Could you invite me?
              Don’t worry , I will get some tips from the Borgias before coming.

              .

            • They’re all dead holdserve, like your soul.

              But I will set you a very large mirror (big enough to fit your self-inflated head) at your table setting so that you can observe the best troll of all.

      • NNY AT 4:11 PM says: “you are cracking me up…That is also instigation…”
        ===
        .
        Thank you for admitting that it’s instigation! That’s how YOU have encouraged the resident troll named hawk…
        I have learned from the best!

        • Augusta,

          Did you ever hear the saying – two wrongs don’t make a right? So why would you want to learn how to instigate? You have just admitted that you are also instigating! LOL!

          You don’t see me doing it. Yet you are putting the responsibility for your instigating behavior on me! That would be the same as if I blamed you for what I did! We are each responsible for our own actions!

          Congratulations on admitting that you are instigating! That is a start! Now you have to stop doing it!

          • They just announced on ESPN that Jiri Vesely has withdrawn due to a pinched nerve in his neck. So Novak gets a walkover into the third round.

            • Poor Jiri…
              Lucky Novak, maybe. I just want Novak to be stable, healthy and happy. It doesn’t matter to me about winning another GS this year.

            • Augusta,

              Well at least you have admitted that you are by definition instigating! That is a start! Taking responsibility for your actions! Finally!

              Also, why would you want to “learn” anything from me? Aren’t you capable of thinking for yourself?
              😊

            • NNY AT 6:01,

              Yep, I have already learned a lot from the best. Without the best I wouldn’t have known / know how to instigate. I even didn’t know this word. I’m learning all the time. 😎

            • No you did just fine on your own for years “wondering” and being “curious” about other posters here.

              You didn’t learn that from anyone here. Maybe you learnt from octobrina on another site but you were the very first to troll Rafans here.

        • Yes, I am waiting for Mary to produce proof of her allegations! Prove every nasty, vulgar thing you said about me since you crawled back here under another user name!

          Prove that Amy is deucey! Prove that she is really a Murray fan pretending to be a Rafa fan! Turn about is fair play!

          We have it dead to rights as to who made the exact same accusation on TT about Ed really being a Murray fan masquerading as a Rafa fan! The exact same thing that is being said now about Amy! Who is the one who cares so much about who is a fan of who! Only one person!

          It is actually typical that the troll-in-chief is calling out anyone else to back up anything!

          Someone has just lost it and it is not pretty!

          😳

  17. Troll Instigator Contest:

    Mary W: 11
    nadline10: 2
    Augusta08: 2

    (If I was counting the unprovoked insults directed at me since yesterday, Augusta would be much closer to Mary but it is clear these two are the instigators.)

    augusta08 AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 6:32 PM
    Djoko’s rescuers have made huge efforts to divert attention away from the real issue (the Djoko team ) to something else. 😏

    Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 3:13 PM
    By the way has anybody else noticed that “amy” is singularly devoid of humor? A sad and pathetic specimen who has revved up two guys vr and hawkeye by showering excessive praise on them?…

    Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 2:49 PM
    #Echo

    Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 3:26 PM
    So, native, why should Rafa’s opinion on Fed be on a novak page?
    #ConfusedTrollLogic

    Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 3:16 PM
    vr, take my advice and stick to tennis. When you are trolling you do not even know which page a post should be on
    #vrBlindedByHateLosesAnalyticBrainReplacedByBile

    Mary W AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 2:58 PM
    #BrazenFacedDeuceBashingLoyals
    #TrollGangRevvedByADeuce

    nadline10 AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 12:08 PM
    If Djoko and his coach are saying different things about his form one of them is not telling the truth or both of them aren’t. Call a spade a spade.

    nadline10 AUGUST 31, 2016 AT 8:49 AM
    Someone said it’s no coincidence that Djoko started losing after meldonium was banned. Just saying.

    augusta08 AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 2:38 PM
    You shouldn’t speculate if you have less information than that fan had.

    Mary W AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 3:09 PM
    deuce upbraids augusta for saying something before?
    #Hilarious!
    #TrollGangOwnsPatentOnBrokenRecords

    Mary W AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 2:39 PM
    #deuceInAggressiveTrollMode
    #HerFellowTrollsInAweOfHerScam
    #HasdeuceBeenMadePresidentOfTrollNation

    Mary W AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 2:17 PM
    The point which you trolls avoid is that no one knows whether it is Djok’s wrist or elbow or shoulder or whether it is his LEFT or his RIGHT!!!

    Mary W AUGUST 30, 2016 AT 1:52 PM
    native doesn’t watch matches so she doesn’t know about Jerzy’s drop shots and his movement.

    Mary W AUGUST 29, 2016 AT 2:25 PM
    #why holier- than -thou native no take him to task?
    #hypocrisy is their middle name ( extract from the song of the trolls)

    Mary W AUGUST 29, 2016 AT 3:41 PM
    Wow!! deuce still asking her “innocent” questions!!!

      • No you do just fine on your own for years “wondering” and being “curious” about other posters here.

        You didn’t learn that from anyone here. Maybe you learnt from octobrina on another site but you were the very first to troll Rafans here.

      • Nah, you were the one instigating all along holdserve.

        You proved that all by your little self over the last two days while I just say back and watched.

        #YoureWelcomeMyFan

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