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  1. Montreal plays quicker than Cincy; according to some Cincy was getting slower, so Rafa could win there one year (in 2013). Wherever Rafa has had successes, it’s always the courts slowing there!

    Fed didn’t have much success in Canada, as the scheduling didn’t favor him or any of the big four; it favors its own players like Raonic. At Cincy, Fed always gets the night matches whilst his fellow big four members get the day sessions and have to battle not only their opponents but also the heat and the humidity.

    Fed skipped the Canada masters many times (2005, 2012, 2013, 2015). Fed won Canada in 2004 and 2006 but each time he lost early at Cincy; the best he could do was final at Canada and won Cincy (2007, 2010, 2014). Lets see what he can do this season.

  2. And Fed lost at Montreal each time he played there – 2003 lost to Roddick; 2007 lost to Djoko; 2009 & 2011 lost to Tsonga (didn’t play in 2005, 2013, 2015).

  3. Yeah, this whole idea that Cinci is like a skating rink compared to other hard courts is not true… Maybe the time of day has something to do with it? But Montreal has always been a fast court, no slower than Cinci. I don’t think there’s any rhyme or reason to why Federer has had relatively limited success in Canada, while absolutely dominating in Cinci. It may have more to do with other non-court speed factors. I know that the Cinci tournament has been traditionally swelteringly hot, but I don’t know if it’s more or less hotter than Montreal/Toronto.

    • Cincy in August is certainly hotter and more humid on average than anywhere in Canada, although the one day I spent at the Rogers Cup in Toronto was plenty hot. The humidity was not that bad. Miami in late March could probably beat out both of them in August for heat and humidity combined.

      • Ramara,

        I live in Delray Beach, Florida. It’s about an hour’s drive north of Miami. You are right about the heat and especially the humidity. It can beat both Montreal and Cincy!

        This is one of the worst summers we str having in southern Florida.

  4. The chart that Joe posted debunks pretty much all the classic court speed beliefs. It says Madrid is the slowest, even though everyone in the world has always claimed that Madrid is a faster clay court because of the altitude. Basically, when it comes down to it, none of the masters courts are “fast” at all! I guess it makes sense that so many people have been complaining for years about the relativ slowing of courts across the board.

    • Yes, Kevin, though as the site notes, actual court speed is only one factor. Still, it’s hard to deny that there has been a general slowing down of courts across the board for the last 15 years or so.

    • Don’t think anyone’s ever said Madrid court is the fastest. It is rather the ‘conditions’ that are fastest. The altitude factor is massive.

      ‘Conditions’ cover multiple things and court speed is one of them. Type of balls, weather, altitude are three examples of other factors.

  5. It’s interesting to note that none of the current players have won a HC Masters during the time when the courts are supposed to be quick or very quick (i.e. Prior to 2003).

    Fed won Canada (Toronto) in 2004 and Rafa won Montreal and Madrid indoors in 2005 and Berdych at Paris 2005; so they’re the few who won when the courts were not yet being slowed down too much.

    I remember Paris Masters in 2010 was one of the fastest in years and Sod won that one. Michael Llodra played his beautiful S&V game and almost beat Sod in the SF if not for a shanked FH, what a shame.

    I really think the main beneficiary of the slowing HCs is Djoko, who almost swept up all the slowed down Indoor HC events (4 WTF from 2012-2015, and three Paris Masters from 2013-2015), though to be fair to him, he’s pretty good at Shanghai too (3 titles) when it’s a quicker HC than most; he also won at Montreal in 2007 and 2011.

    The speed Djoko had at sweeping up the Masters titles was scary, 25 Masters plus 4 WTF in six years from 2011-2016, with 5 in 2011 and 6 in 2015!

  6. I wish Federer wins another FO before he retires. I know chances are he will not. He played 5 finals there. Only Nadal kept him from winning more. I guess in 2018 he should play less HC tournaments and take FO seriously. I guess I want it in the same way Rafans wish at least one more AO title.

    • I was quite disappointed that Fed skipped RG this year. I hope he does not make it a habit. I guess Rafa can be very I itmidating at RG but so is Fed at Wimby, Novak and Fed at AO. I guess at his age he has to be judicious with his scheduling, would be a shame if it’s RG that suffers because of it….

  7. Federer casts doubt over Paris show
    AFPOct 27, 2017, 10:48 PM

    The world number two, who will have a bye in the first round at Paris Bercy, said he will make a decision on his appearance in the French capital after the ongoing tournament in Basel where he made the semi-finals on Friday.

    “I’ll decide when it’s over this weekend what to do with Paris,” said the 36-year-old Federer after defeating Frenchman Adrian Mannarino 4-6, 6-1, 6-3.

    “I’m hoping to play there, but there’s also a good possibility that I won’t. It depends on how I feel.

    “We’ll see what happens, health is always more important at this stage of my career.”–ten.html

  8. Most likely he won’t play, I guess. To play three events in four weeks, and obviously two of them have to be B2B week, not good for a 36 yo. We saw Rafa at 31 played B2B at Beijing/Shanghai and he struggled more at Shanghai.

    I think Fed will just focus on Basel plus WTF.

  9. Federer wins Comeback Player, Sportsmanship Award and Fans Favourite for the 1000th time. I wonder if he is not embarrassed with this ATP farce, year after year after year?

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