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    • can’t even articulate anything that i feel it’s so bad.
      brexit was bad but this is a million times worse.
      one of the worst days of my life.
      i honestly don’t know how a country like america could vote in a fascist moron who is a danger to the whole world.

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      • sorry i should have said deepest commies to all our american friends here. rc, nny, benny, anyone else i may have forgotten as i’m not sure of their nationality and of course ricky. are you going to be emigrating to canada ricky? the bbc has reported that the canada immigration site has gone down it has so many hits on it!
        sorry again for not saying this before. was kind of in shock tbh…still am….
        almost everyone here in europe is thinking of you all as nearly all of us hate trump…

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        • Thanks amy. I’m still in shock. Mortified and depressed that this could happen. No words right now. Just hearing that con artist and liar speaks makes my skin crawl. Maybe it won’t be as bad as I dread but right now I do wish there was a way for me to move to Canada. Just not feeling very well at all.

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          • terribly sorry rc. i feel the same and i am not even american. it must be hell on earth for you.
            i haven’t watched one minute of the election coverage as i literally cannot watch that shit. my whole nervous system just goes into spasm.
            ever since comey rigged the election that friday i have been feeling ill and very anxious. but we have to be strong and resist what is going on. it’s the only way.
            love and support from me and loads of horrified brits who stand with you. xxx

    • I haven’t been able to come on here to express my thoughts about this truly horrific and shameful election result. I know his dirty it was, since I was involved in working for hillary’s campaign in Florida.

      We are watching a new-fascist movement that has taken over our government. I do not have polite words to express what I feeling now. This is a tragedy for this country and the worst thing I have seen in my lifetime.

      Last night I thought to myself that I was grateful that my parents were not alive to see this shameful result. It wound have broken their hearts.

      I hope that those abroad will pray for this country. I am thinking of the Supreme Court and what thiscoukc mean for that body.

      I am ashamed of my country and those who voted for a man who spewed out such hateful rhetoric and lies. The people who voted for this despicable con artist will live to regret it when they realize that they have been conned.

      I appreciate very much the words of sympathy and support from those here who live abroad. I am personally just devastated right now.

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      • I am sorry for all the typos in my post above. I am exhausted from lack of sleep and still quite emotional. But even with the auto correct garbling, I think my feelings and emotions were very clear.

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        • am terribly sorry nny. can’t even express what i feel i am so devestated and it is a thousand times worse for you.
          comey threw this election and made america look like a banana republic.
          i know that this must be awful for you but at least you can look yourself in the mirror and know you fought fascism which is what it is. it is shameful beyond belief that people aren’t calling it for what it is. so kudos to you.
          thinking of you and love xxxx

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          • Amy,

            Thanks so much for your kind words. I tried and so did a litchi f other people who volunteered for Hillary’s campaign. Many people understood the danger that Trump represented. He is a disgrace to humanity and for all his whining about a rigged system, with the Russians hacking into the Democratic Party and then Wikileaks dumping them the emails every day and then Comey writing that letter and then the revelation by Giuliani that they knew about it weeks in advance, it was clear that her was dirty stuff going on behind the scenes.

            I am sick over it. Just heartsick. Trump was backed by these alt-right wing extremists who wanted to take over the country. Trump told people what they wanted to hear. All lies.

            It’s truly a sad day. When I think of Trump threatening not to accept the outcome and not concede, it just makes me mad all over again.

            As an American, I am truly disgusted and ashamed of those people who embraced a vile madman like Trump. Now the Republicans will dismantle all of the progress under Obama.

            They say that we get the government that we deserve. For those who voted in anger for a lying despot, now they will reap what they have sown.

            Thanks again for your wonderful words. It renews my faith in humanity.
            ? This is how I feel today.

          • just wish i could do more nny. the misogyny and violence heaped on hillary just beggars belief. the fbi was out to get her and i don’t believe that they investigated trump and his zillion criminal connections properly if at all, nor do i think they really bothered to look into his bizarre connections with putin. i don’t do conspiracy theories but i really do think that putin has many levers he can hold over him.
            assange is a loathsome toad who i hate as much as trump. he’s hand in glove with putin and roger stone and company.
            i mean seriously, what would you find if you hacked trump and his associates?! it would be mind-boggling in its level of corruption. there was just no level playing field.
            am too shattered to write any sense but thinking of you and sending love again as i know this is awful beyond words for you to have to go through…xxxxxx
            ps we have to stay strong and all fight this together.

        • NNY I just popped back here to say how sorry I am about this result. I know you were campaigning tirelessly for Hillary. It’s just awful. Huge hugs.
          And hugs and commiserations to you too Ratcliff. Apparently the Canadian immigration site crashed with so many enquiries.
          And, while I’m here, giving Amy a wave and a hug too.

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      • “…will live to regret it when they realize that they have been conned.”

        They are too dumb and ignorant to ever realize what they have done.

        Yesterday was a very dark day for the whole planet.

        I share your pain.

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        • Amy,

          You just put it into words so well! You really get what was going on. What they did to Hillary was just sickening.

          I am with you in not being a conspiracy theorist, but the connection between Trump and Putin seems pretty clear. We also ejected someone who refused to reveal his taxes. Why? Because he is hiding something! The sense is that Trump has gotten money from Putin and is beholden to him. He also wanted to hide the fact that he has not paid federal income taxes for like 18 years!

          Adds he needs to be extradited to face outstanding rape charges. He is a bottom feeder! He had some petty grudge against Hillary and decided to dump all those hacked emails. God only knows what we would have found if the Republican Party had their emails hacked!

          The FBI was out to get Hillary. The standing policy is not to interfere with an election be revealing information that could top the scales. It’s frightening.

          As you said, the misogyny and violent rhetorical was appalling. The disrespect for women was just so offensive.

          They elected someone who set up
          a fake university and cheated people, who did not pay contractors for work they did on his buildings, who refused to allow black people to live in his buildings, who bankrupted casinos and left the stockholders to deal with the mess.

          There are going to be serious consequences for this country.

          We have survived so much in the history of this country. But I don’t know how we will survive Trump.

          Again, thanks for your words of support and encouragement. It helps.
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          • I was referencing Assange, but it came out with auto correct as Adds! So I just wanted to clarify that I was talking about Assange, who is the lowest form of humanity!

          • hope you are feeling a bit better today nny?? am still feeling dreadful myself i have to say and scarcely capable of constructing a sentence through lack of sleep! just hope you are finding a way in yourself through all this…am struggling myself and it’s far worse for you…

        • Hawkeye,

          Thanks so much for your words. You speak the truth! I cannot believe that people could be that ignorant! It’s scary!

          I will get through this, but right now I am quite devastated.
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  14. So sorry for you guys living in the United States. Just have to pray that this guy wont really do something moronic to lead the country into chaos.

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  16. Im from GB, but i really feel for the Americans right now, a sad day, sorry to RC as i cant begin to imagine how yourself and the rest of the Americans on the forum must be feeling 🙁

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  17. I’m glad checks and balances exists. That way trump might be prevented from doing anything extreme. I think the way he presented himself is awful and he really is just plain awful but I don’t think and I hope that congress makes sure trump behaves from now on. I don’t know if he really believed he was gonna win and now that he did he needs to stop being a buffoon. He’s said some awful things but hopefully for the next four years he’s just kind of there and doesn’t do anything crazy which I think will be the way it goes because congress will be able to prevent that. He’ll still say some horrible things because that’s who he is but hopefully not to an extreme extent.

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    • The problem with the idea of checks and balances, is that tge House of Representatives and the Senate are controlled by Republicans. So there is no check on Trump. I think expecting the Republicans to check Trump if he goes too far, is not realistic. Now if the Democrats controlled one or both houses of Congress, that would be different.

      We will have to hope that the Democrats will be the loyal opposition and conscience. But I am especially concerned about Republicans controlling both the Presidency and Congress. That is a scary prospect to me.

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      • This Native Newyorker is proud to say that in NY tonight they are out in the streets demonstrating against Trump! They shut down 5th Avenue and are outside Trump Tower! Also protests in Philadelphia and Oakland, Ca.

        Long live democracy!

        Power to the people!

        Trump, can you hear the voice of the people?

        This is the first time I have smiled!
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  18. From the NY Times…

    America Elects a Bigot

    Excerpts…

    “Also, let me be clear: Businessman Donald Trump was a bigot. Candidate Donald Trump was a bigot. Republican nominee Donald Trump was a bigot. And I can only assume that President Donald Trump will be a bigot.

    It is absolutely possible that America didn’t elect him in spite of that, but because of it. Consider that for a second. Think about what that means. This is America right now: throwing its lot in with a man who named an alt-right sympathizer as his campaign chief.

    How can I make sense of the fact that the president appeared in pornos?

    How can I make sense of the fact that the man who will appoint the next attorney general has himself boasted of assaulting women? What will this president’s vaunted “law and order” program for “inner cities” look like in an age where minority communities are already leery of police aggression?

    How do I make sense of the fact that a man who attacked a federal judge for his “Mexican heritage” will be the man who will nominate the next Supreme Court justice and scores of federal judges?

    I can’t make it make sense because it doesn’t. I must sit with the absurdity of it.”

    That said, it is impossible for me to fall in line behind an unrepentant bigot. It will be impossible for me to view this man participating in the pageantry and protocols of the presidency and not be reminded of how he is a demonstrated demagogue who is also a sexist, a racist, a xenophobe and a bully.

    That is not a person worthy of applause. That is a person who must be placed under unrelenting pressure. Power must be challenged, constantly. That begins today.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/10/opinion/america-elects-a-bigot.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=0

    #FightHateAndIgnorance

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    • Hawkeye,

      Thanks for posting that article. Well said!

      I haven’t been focusing on tennis lately. I have been too involved with the election. There will be a time when I will once again b watch tennis. But now this is more important,

      I don’t know how we are going to survive a monster like Trump.

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  19. one of the things that is most shocking to me is the numbers of college educated voters who voted for trump. it’s true that the only white group who voted as a majority for clinton were college educated women but college educated men voted for him in large numbers and the totals together are just ridiculous.
    people keep talking about the similarites with brexit, which are overblown imo, but one massive difference is that university educated people regardless of race, gender, class and age voted overwhelmingly against brexit. does college educated in the states mean what university educated does here??
    i find it utterly incomprehensible that so many people who were well educated would vote with their eyes open for a fascist moron. what for? for tax cuts? you offset tax cuts against someone who has the nuclear codes and will destroy the enviroment, who will set off race riots and on and on….that is so mean and small and craven and nakedly greedy that i can’t get my head around it.
    shame on them. they are worse than people who voted for fascism in weimar. in weimar people were in utter poverty and desperate.
    also, those in weimar didn’t have the luxury of history that we have where we know the outcome of their mistakes. am sure these americans who voted for trump like to think they are the good guys still but they absolutely are not.

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  20. i still reckon that comey and the fbi leaks in the last week threw the result. nate silver analysed the numbers and said that if only 1 person in a 100 switched their vote to the dems they would have won in florida, wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania.
    what happened in the last week was easily enough to lose 1 in a 100 dem votes probably more. especially as there were a lot of undecided voters and those broke overwhelmingly for trump ie they made their minds up at the last minute against a background of endless negative reports for hillary.
    people can analyse all they want about cultural shifts or whatever but those are the bare facts. ie they would have won albeit narrowly and none of this discussion would be going on.
    trump’s victory is going to entrench racist politics in the gop. but less people voted for him than either mccain or romney. it was the drop off in the dem vote that was the real factor.
    and not enough is being written about how the republicans used voter suppression tactics of taking people off the register or cutting early polling sites in dem areas. in one dem area in north carolina they cut them from 27 to 1. people in poor areas had to wait 3/4 hours to vote. again, there is your missing one in a hundred which swung things.
    i honestly think most of the republican party is evil.

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    • Amy,

      I just read online that the Russians have now admitted that they were in contact with the Trump campaign all along! So now the truth comes out! We know now that this election was rigged with help from the Russians! Cute that it came out today!

      Also, I was well aware of the voter suppression tactics used by the Repubicans to drop minorities from voting. These are Republican controlled states. They did go to court to get the thousands of black voters who were purged from the voting rolls reinstated. They did win and the judge ordered them to reinstate those voters. But the question is how many of those people were able to vote in time. It is true that they did close polling places in North Carolina. They have done it in Ohio, too.

      It’s an old fascist tactic to accuse your opponent of the very thing you are doing. That is what trump did in saying that the election was rigged. Yes and the Republicans rigged it!

      People were demonstrating all night long in cities like Portland, Oregon and Seattle, Washington and Chicago.

      Hillary win the popular vote! So it’s not like Brexit at all! The electoral college is where she lost. Does anyone think fir a minute that trump would have conceded the election if he won the popular vote?

      I finally believe that the FBI threw this election. Guiliani even saud that they knew about it for weeks. He said on FOX news that they had a few things up their sleeve.

      You are right that this is worse than the Weimar vote. Those people were suffering with a world wide depression. What is the excuse for the morons who voted for Trump?

      This is fascism in America! Now we know that we don’t t even have free elections in America. The whole idea was to rig this election with the help of the FBI.

      I am also disgusted with the women who voted for Trump. College educated? Really?

      The figures from Nate Silver tell the story because the truth is that the election was close. it’s not like Trump got a mandate even with the rigging,

      I am so ashamed of the Americans who gave in to their worst impulses and voted for this abominable man.

      Reality has set in.
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    • Amy it was definitely decided in the last week according to the CNN exit poll.

      Of voters polled who made their decision in the last week before the election, 50% voted Bigot compared to 38% for Clinton.

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